My very honest p4p list

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1- Naoya Inoue
2- Canelo Alvarez
3- Juan Francisco Estrada
4- Dmitry Bivol
5- Errol Spence Jr.

No skin tone sympathy. Based on just realism.

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Interesting. No issues with it for now, but we do need an adequate test for Bivol, whoever that might be.

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who is estrada?

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Interesting. No issues with it for now, but we do need an adequate test for Bivol, whoever that might be.

Ramirez and Canelo


honestly those 2 wins eclipse Inoue's best wins

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Ramirez and Canelo


honestly those 2 wins eclipse Inoue's best wins

Problem is, Canelo wasn't fighting at his natural weight (asterisk) and Zurdo was 'eye test' (asterisk).

I'm talking about someone like Beterbiev. Or even a returning Gvozdyk. Someone with real experience at the weight that wasn't beating setups.

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Problem is, Canelo wasn't fighting at his natural weight (asterisk) and Zurdo was 'eye test' (asterisk).

I'm talking about someone like Beterbiev. Or even a returning Gvozdyk. Someone with real experience at the weight that wasn't beating setups.

Canelo is a champ at LHW by knocking out Kovalev. Gvozdyk for example got his belt by beating a 44 yo Stevenson, who ducked Kovalev for years. Kovalev >>>>>>> Stevenson. Gvozdyk is a the definition of a eurobum in comparison.

Canelo is also currently a unifed champ at SMV and in his absolute prime


he's a much better win than Hearns or Duran on Hagler's resume historically speaking. those are ATG wins. which historic win does Inoue own that even comes close? Honestly you can argue prime Ramirez >>>>> retirement Donaire




Bivol's win over Canelo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other win in boxing tbh. He had to be so dominant and win 10 rounds against the p4p #1

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None of those bums are better than, Terence “TBE” Crawford.

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The list would be much more exciting if Inoue becomes undisputed at 122 and Canelo beats Ryder and Bivol. Canelo can get his throne again. Let's wait for Sept 2k23.

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P4p is nonsense but just talking about who the best in each division isn't sexy enough for most posters, number 4 and 5 on your list haven't even proven to be number 1 in their own division.

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Canelo is a champ at LHW by knocking out Kovalev. Gvozdyk for example got his belt by beating a 44 yo Stevenson, who ducked Kovalev for years. Kovalev >>>>>>> Stevenson. Gvozdyk is a the definition of a eurobum in comparison.

Canelo is also currently a unifed champ at SMV and in his absolute prime


he's a much better win than Hearns or Duran on Hagler's resume historically speaking. those are ATG wins. which historic win does Inoue own that even comes close? Honestly you can argue prime Ramirez >>>>> retirement Donaire




Bivol's win over Canelo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other win in boxing tbh. He had to be so dominant and win 10 rounds against the p4p #1

Gvozdyk was undefeated and a killer in his own right. Damn near killed Stevenson. Beterbiev then proceeded to damn near kill Gvozdyk.

Meanwhile, Bivol was basically light touching a gassed out Canelo.

All I'm saying is, Bivol needs a legit test by someone who campaigns at that weight.