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  • Roadblock
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    #41
    Originally posted by kiaba360

    ...and he's already contemplating retirement. Meanwhile, we got Donaire running around at 40 still looking to fight top guys and win titles.
    So if he retires at 35 he has 7 yrs of boxing, at 2 fights a year that's 14 fights, his next is current unbeaten WC and then one of the top guys of the division, and he is talking fighting 3-4 times a year and is calling out everyone from 135 to 147, you boys are too quick to put someone in a box.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      His career is young, his best is over the next five yrs, fighters are finishing up close to 40 today which means 28 is young and only just hitting prime.
      Not for someone in the lower weights who blows up 30lbs between each fight.

      he’s not young.

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        #43
        Originally posted by _Rexy_

        Not for someone in the lower weights who blows up 30lbs between each fight.

        he’s not young.
        Yes he is there is no doubt about that, a top guy can own boxing in 5 yrs if things go right for them, lots of guys blew up in weight between fights and Davis is only now coming out of the shadows yet he is talked about like his career is over with, in my eyes, his career is only for real just starting give the guy a chance before writing him off.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Roadblock

          Yes he is there is no doubt about that, a top guy can own boxing in 5 yrs if things go right for them, lots of guys blew up in weight between fights and Davis is only now coming out of the shadows yet he is talked about like his career is over with, in my eyes, his career is only for real just starting give the guy a chance before writing him off.
          Your eyes are **** then.

          “lots of guys blow up in weight between fights.” Yup. Look at AB.

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          • Roadblock
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            #45
            Originally posted by _Rexy_

            Your eyes are **** then.

            “lots of guys blow up in weight between fights.” Yup. Look at AB.
            So AB is Tank Davis, why do you guys not see the individual its always a blanket attaching a negative to somebody else, it amazes me how some connect dots no matter how far apart those dots are.

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            • kiaba360
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              #46
              Originally posted by Roadblock

              So if he retires at 35 he has 7 yrs of boxing, at 2 fights a year that's 14 fights, his next is current unbeaten WC and then one of the top guys of the division, and he is talking fighting 3-4 times a year and is calling out everyone from 135 to 147, you boys are too quick to put someone in a box.
              I mentioned his contemplation of retirement because it gives me pause on how long his career will actually last, especially when he has yet to face any severe adversity and everything has gone relatively smoothly. He's making decent money and has had a machine behind him almost his entire career. I brought up Donaire as an example of someone who continues to fight through defeat at an advanced age, and I'm pretty sure he had to look at himself in the mirror or sit down with his wife and ask himself some tough questions. We saw Teofimo ask himself in the ring a few nights ago, "Do I still got it?". He's 25 and on the verge of an existential crisis. Davis has yet to lose or even come close to losing...so it's surprising that retirement is at the front of his mind. I know boxers are human too, and they have endeavors they want to achieve outside of wearing gloves. You just don't expect guys who are relatively young (Davis, Teofimo, Ryan Garcia, etc.) already looking towards the end. It's very possible Davis won't be around when he's 35. He had something negative to say about Bradley being a HOF, but we won't know if Davis will be HOF when his career is up. Maybe Davis already believes he has a HOF fighter, and that's why he's contemplating retirement?
              Last edited by kiaba360; 12-13-2022, 08:28 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by kiaba360

                I mentioned his contemplation of retirement because it gives me pause on how long his career will actually last, especially when he has yet to face any severe adversity and everything has gone relatively smoothly. He's making decent money and has had a machine behind him almost his entire career. I brought up Donaire as an example of someone who continues to fight through defeat at an advanced age, and I'm pretty sure he had to look at himself in the mirror or sit down with his wife and ask himself some tough questions. We saw Teofimo ask himself in the ring a few nights ago, "Do I still got it?". He's 25 and on the verge of an existential crisis. Davis has yet to lose or even come close to losing...so it's surprising that retirement is at the front of his mind. I know boxers are human too, and they have endeavors they want to achieve outside of wearing gloves. You just don't expect guys who are relatively young (Davis, Teofimo, Ryan Garcia, etc.) already looking towards the end. It's very possible Davis won't be around when he's 35. He had something negative to say about Bradley being a HOF, but we won't know if Davis will be HOF when his career is up. Maybe Davis already believes he has a HOF fighter, and that's why he's contemplating retirement?
                You could be right but we wont know until we get there, boxing can skyrocket or sink a guy and it can happen quickly, its like all the hate thrown at TC, but it would only take 2 fights to put him without a doubt on top of the world and ATG talks, say he beat Spence then Charlo next fight, or on the flip side if he fights another 2 B graders then he will wallow in sht, Manny went from a very good fighter to immortal in one fight that's how quick it can happen, boxing is that fickle.

                As I said earlier I don't think anybody is truly established in this era, the name guys Canelo Loma Donaire are from the last era and closing their careers, this new crop is still figuring out where they are, lots to happen over the next 5 years.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista

                  Different weight classes

                  Tim is a natural 140/147 lber. It's silly to ask Tank to fight his resume while Tank has 1 fight at 140 and having started at 126

                  But if you match him against similar 130/135 pounders, he beats all of them except Pac

                  Rios, JMM and Casamayor would be toast
                  Tank beats prime 135 JMM...or the faded 147 version that Timmy fought?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Roadblock

                    His career is young, his best is over the next five yrs, fighters are finishing up close to 40 today which means 28 is young and only just hitting prime.
                    Prime starts to end at 32-34. Tanks career is 2/3's over.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by War Room

                      Prime starts to end at 32-34. Tanks career is 2/3's over.
                      So much can happen in 4-6 yrs, boy oh boy that's a lifetime in pro boxing if the cards fall right he could easily be the P4P best in the sport in that time, that door is open to every elite guy in the sport, it can happen so quickly with just 2 or 3 of the right wins against the right guys.

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