Vitali Klitschko: Too Late To Be Great?

[Lacrimosa]

That doesnt make you an ATG, Ibeabuchi had great talent is he an ATG?

KHM-KHM is that a joke? I mean if you call iron chin and load of health a talent... well... I mean Byrd did great against Ibeabuchi before he got caught (with what i think was a true "lucky punch"). I mean, should they meat again i have no doubt Byrd would outpoint him... Ibeabuchi was nothing special IMO - just a lot of health

[MANGLER]

Just like Wlad, VK ain't got the opponents needed to be gr8. Not his fault.

[furiousboxing]

Arreola ain't upsetting nobody!

[Lacrimosa]

Just like Wlad, VK ain't got the opponents needed to be gr8. Not his fault.

Well if they continue to win they will go down as the great Heavyweights... Holmes had few good names on his resume,but went down as one of the greatest heavyweights due to his longevity...

[HeartAttack]

KHM-KHM is that a joke? I mean if you call iron chin and load of health a talent... well... I mean Byrd did great against Ibeabuchi before he got caught (with what i think was a true "lucky punch"). I mean, should they meat again i have no doubt Byrd would outpoint him... Ibeabuchi was nothing special IMO - just a lot of health

lol, Lucky punch my ass. You need to either watch the fight first, or rewatch it. Byrd was losing the fight to Ibeabuchi and his best round was the 1st, which I gave to Ike, but Lederman gave to Byrd. Ike had him on the ropes in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th and was slowing Byrd down with body shots. I'm not saying Ibeabuchi would've been the best heavyweight ever, but he didn't win because of health, he KO'd Byrd because he was stronger, smarter, and nearly as fast. He beat Tua because he dug down deeper outworked him and refused to be intimidated by Tua. I understand how a bit of animosity can be built up towards Ibeabuchi because of how overrated some have him, but trully watch his two biggest victories (Tua & Byrd) and tell me he wasn't something special (and I'm not talking about how ****ing crazy he was/is, Cedric Kushner his old promoter told me some ****ed up stories about Ike).

[The Hammer]

That doesnt make you an ATG, Ibeabuchi had great talent is he an ATG?

Ike Ibeabuchi never proved he had "great" talent. He did have two good wins over Tua and Byrd, but was losing a decision to Byrd when he caught him.

Ibeabuchi is a kind of "what if" fantasy for those who long for a black heavyweight champion.

[The_Demon]

no chance,doesnt have the competition
the best fighter he fought was an old ass lewis and he lost that so...

[dans]

Ike Ibeabuchi never proved he had "great" talent. He did have two good wins over Tua and Byrd, but was losing a decision to Byrd when he caught him.

Ibeabuchi is a kind of "what if" fantasy for those who long for a black heavyweight champion.

Come on now, long for a black heavyweight champion? Ibeabuchi was a power house and seemed to be on the brink of stardom. There's no racial element to the fascination over him. And why would anyone long for a black heavyweight champion? Blacks have dominated the heavyweight division until recently when Eastern Europeans came into the picture.

Get yourself a color TV.

[catalinul]

Ike Ibeabuchi never proved he had "great" talent. He did have two good wins over Tua and Byrd, but was losing a decision to Byrd when he caught him.

Ibeabuchi is a kind of "what if" fantasy for those who long for a black heavyweight champion.

Yes he did.He never proved he was a great fighter.He proved he had great talent.

And he wasn't losing no decison when he ripped Byrd's head off.

[The_Demon]

Come on now, long for a black heavyweight champion? Ibeabuchi was a power house and seemed to be on the brink of stardom. There's no racial element to the fascination over him. And why would anyone long for a black heavyweight champion? Blacks have dominated the heavyweight division until recently when Eastern Europeans came into the picture.

Get yourself a color TV.

he will bring race into the majority of his debates,its pathetic
he even had the nerve too email me saying 'are you a racist'? because apparently im against eastern european boxers
he is a very confused guy