Comments Thread For: Photos: Demetrius Andrade, Demond Nicholson - Face To Face at Presser

[DougalDylan]

Unfortunately your boy Canelo is fighting British Bum Ryder instead of a real fighter. Canelo will never fight another slick black fighter again after Lara punk'd his ass

Wait there are some current slick black fighters , where ?? who ?? Not with the PBC at middle / super miiddleweight obviously. When will the PBC fighters try to become world champions instead of local PBC Island champs .. sad . Why didn't Andrade fight Janibeck ? Why didn't Charlo fight Andrade ?? Why is it only Canelo unifying belts?

[Rebelrbg]

I don't want Ryder to get that fight either but to go on as if he has to fight these guys who are still not even tested properly at high level is silly Benavidez is starting to make a case but Andrade and Charlo need to start fighting people especially Andrade with his constant ducking that's his own damn fault.

I agree, but now, out from under Hearn and DAZN, there's no promoters or networks to hold him from making the big fights. He's on the same network as all the contenders that Cinnabon chose Ryder over. Once these guys are fighting each other, starting with Benavidez and Plant, I already know that they're going to come up with another excuse. Oh, he's concentrating on overseas fighters, or something similar. But, he's been fighting British and European boxers for years now. The wiggle room is going to get very small to keep dodging these fighters in the next year.

As far as Charlo, he just needs to get active starting in February, and take on the toughest competition after. He has the talent, the rest will work itself out.

[Boro]

I agree, but now, out from under Hearn and DAZN, there's no promoters or networks to hold him from making the big fights. He's on the same network as all the contenders that Cinnabon chose Ryder over. Once these guys are fighting each other, starting with Benavidez and Plant, I already know that they're going to come up with another excuse. Oh, he's concentrating on overseas fighters, or something similar. But, he's been fighting British and European boxers for years now. The wiggle room is going to get very small to keep dodging these fighters in the next year.

As far as Charlo, he just needs to get active starting in February, and take on the toughest competition after. He has the talent, the rest will work itself out.

Charlo doesn't have the talent or he wouldn't be avoiding anyone with a pulse, Mell is the talented one and willing to take people on Mall is a joke comparatively.

As for Canelo fighting Europeans what do you expect he moved up to SMW the upper echelons/champions have primarily been European from it's inception - there has only ever been one American WBO - SMW champion, 3 with the WBC 4 with the WBA in what 38 years?

And Cinnamon's last 8 fights he's fought 2 Europeans, not exactly feasting on Europeans as you're making out...

[Rebelrbg]

Charlo doesn't have the talent or he wouldn't be avoiding anyone with a pulse, Mell is the talented one and willing to take people on Mall is a joke comparatively.

As for Canelo fighting Europeans what do you expect he moved up to SMW the upper echelons/champions have primarily been European from it's inception - there has only ever been one American WBO - SMW champion, 3 with the WBC 4 with the WBA in what 38 years?

And Cinnamon's last 8 fights he's fought 2 Europeans, not exactly feasting on Europeans as you're making out...

The WBO places most of the European fighters at the top of their rankings. Yildirim, Callum Smith, Liam Smith, Rocky Fielding, Billie Joe, Amir Khan; I would call that feasting, and now Ryder.

If Jermall lacked the talent, Canelo wouldn't have ducked him when he was his mandatory. If he lacked talent, GGG wouldn't have, and continued to, duck him for unification all these years after the constant call outs, and Benavidez wouldn't have been begging for him to come up and fight to prove himself worthy of a Cinnabon fight. Jermall only lacked other champions willing to face him, so he was stuck fighting mandatory fights or move up, which he didn't want to do because he wanted to become undisputed. I think it got the best of him, and the frustration led to inactivity, but he's back in February and all of those guys like Andrade, Benavidez, Plant, and Morrell are on Showtime now.

[Rebelrbg]

Wait there are some current slick black fighters , where ?? who ?? Not with the PBC at middle / super miiddleweight obviously. When will the PBC fighters try to become world champions instead of local PBC Island champs .. sad . Why didn't Andrade fight Janibeck ? Why didn't Charlo fight Andrade ?? Why is it only Canelo unifying belts?

Cinnabon chose not to unify when Andrade was at 160 with him and GGG. More excuses. He ran to another division after the GGG, which he lost, so that he wouldn't have to face Andrade or Charlo.

[Boro]

The WBO places most of the European fighters at the top of their rankings. Yildirim, Callum Smith, Liam Smith, Rocky Fielding, Billie Joe, Amir Khan; I would call that feasting, and now Ryder.

If Jermall lacked the talent, Canelo wouldn't have ducked him when he was his mandatory. If he lacked talent, GGG wouldn't have, and continued to, duck him for unification all these years after the constant call outs, and Benavidez wouldn't have been begging for him to come up and fight to prove himself worthy of a Cinnabon fight. Jermall only lacked other champions willing to face him, so he was stuck fighting mandatory fights or move up, which he didn't want to do because he wanted to become undisputed. I think it got the best of him, and the frustration led to inactivity, but he's back in February and all of those guys like Andrade, Benavidez, Plant, and Morrell are on Showtime now.

Canelo never ducked Mall, ridiculous thing to say his own brother called him on his shít.

He fought Jacobs and Kovalev the year that they (WBC) were discussing making him mandatory it's beyond laughable to imply he was ducked...

Yildrim isn't European, Khan was 6 years ago as was Liam Smith, you've had to go back years to "prove" he's been feasting on Europeans again another joke...

I could say Charlo has been feasting on low level Mexicans if I wanted to be petty but I don't need to make everything about race/nationalism.

[Rebelrbg]

Canelo never ducked Mall, ridiculous thing to say his own brother called him on his shít.

He fought Jacobs and Kovalev the year that they (WBC) were discussing making him mandatory it's beyond laughable to imply he was ducked...

Yildrim isn't European, Khan was 6 years ago as was Liam Smith, you've had to go back years to "prove" he's been feasting on Europeans again another joke...

I could say Charlo has been feasting on low level Mexicans if I wanted to be petty but I don't need to make everything about race/nationalism.

Its definitely not about race but the level of opposition. When I say Euro-boxer, I mean that they mainly fight European, domestic level fighters. They don't have to be of European descent, such as Yildirim. Every domestic level fighter wants to reach global stardom, if they have the talent, but there's a difference between a Benavidez and a Rocky Fielding.

If Callum Smith fought Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez, or Morrell, he would be the underdog in all of those fights, even though, he does quite well for himself in Europe. Cinnabon is supposed to be a top echelon fighter but he consistently avoids these fighters, and replaces them with the Billie Joe and Ryder types. Also, it wasn't about reaching back, he only fights twice a year, in those years, he's established a pattern.
Lastly, it was definitely a duck. Neither Ginger nor GGG was willing to fight Charlo, and Canelo never even revisited the mandatory after GGG continued to duck Jermall. He chose to move up and fight the fighters with less risk and talent, while globally, we all shook our heads.

[Rebelrbg]

Canelo never ducked Mall, ridiculous thing to say his own brother called him on his shít.

He fought Jacobs and Kovalev the year that they (WBC) were discussing making him mandatory it's beyond laughable to imply he was ducked...

Yildrim isn't European, Khan was 6 years ago as was Liam Smith, you've had to go back years to "prove" he's been feasting on Europeans again another joke...

I could say Charlo has been feasting on low level Mexicans if I wanted to be petty but I don't need to make everything about race/nationalism.

Oh yeah, if you want to say that Charlo feasted on low level Mexicans, he called out the champions, and the only one that would step up was Andrade. But, they have a Spence and Thurman type of beef. Boo Boo, when they were all at 154, gave up his belt rather than face Jermell when he thought that he was the bigger name. Jermall, after winning a belt at 154 and 160, said that he wouldn't give Andrade a shot now that he was the bigger name. But, years have gone by, and they're all on Showtime now, so Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez, Plant, and Morrell will be fighting each other. Soon, Cinnabon will have nowhere to run. Charlo fought his mandatory fights, something Clenelo wouldn't do, but once all those spots are filled with the fighters that he's been avoiding, he has no choice.

[Boro]

Its definitely not about race but the level of opposition. When I say Euro-boxer, I mean that they mainly fight European, domestic level fighters. They don't have to be of European descent, such as Yildirim. Every domestic level fighter wants to reach global stardom, if they have the talent, but there's a difference between a Benavidez and a Rocky Fielding.

If Callum Smith fought Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez, or Morrell, he would be the underdog in all of those fights, even though, he does quite well for himself in Europe. Cinnabon is supposed to be a top echelon fighter but he consistently avoids these fighters, and replaces them with the Billie Joe and Ryder types. Also, it wasn't about reaching back, he only fights twice a year, in those years, he's established a pattern.
Lastly, it was definitely a duck. Neither Ginger nor GGG was willing to fight Charlo, and Canelo never even revisited the mandatory after GGG continued to duck Jermall. He chose to move up and fight the fighters with less risk and talent, while globally, we all shook our heads.

Benavidez could've fought Smith he was available at the time when the WBC was vacant and for some odd reason (sarcasm) he ended up fighting Gavril instead.

Even though Smith had the Silver and was ranked #1... And Smith wouldn't be the underdog against any of them he was the #1 in the division, none of the guys you've listed have beat anyone of note...

You're just coming across as Xenophobic to be fair, It's obvious you're fine with mediocre competition for fighters who you're throating but if you deem someone mediocre and you dislike the fighter who fighting them it's somehow a disgrace... If you didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any.

But your right it definitely was a duck by Charlo, his own brother called him out on instagram for it don't so play ******...

it's laughable to call Smith and BJS domestic fighters and than have Andrade in the same conversation when he's never even beat a champion or former champion, he's the definition of a domestic fighter...

[Rebelrbg]

Benavidez could've fought Smith he was available at the time when the WBC was vacant and for some odd reason (sarcasm) he ended up fighting Gavril instead.

Even though Smith had the Silver and was ranked #1... And Smith wouldn't be the underdog against any of them he was the #1 in the division, none of the guys you've listed have beat anyone of note...

You're just coming across as Xenophobic to be fair, It's obvious you're fine with mediocre competition for fighters who you're throating but if you deem someone mediocre and you dislike the fighter who fighting them it's somehow a disgrace... If you didn't have double standards, you wouldn't have any.

But your right it definitely was a duck by Charlo, his own brother called him out on instagram for it don't so play ******...

it's laughable to call Smith and BJS domestic fighters and than have Andrade in the same conversation when he's never even beat a champion or former champion, he's the definition of a domestic fighter...

I don't even like Andrade, but because he signed with Hearn and DAZN at the time, he was supposed to be the GLOBAL fighter that would put domestic fighters on the radar by opposing them. He was supposed to fight Billie Joe, but Saunders felt the need to juice up before taking on that type of smoke. Smith is mediocre at best, just name anyone of stature that he's beaten outside of the UK.
Charlo's brother called him out out for continuing to fight mandatory fights, but the facts remain that none of the other champions, outside of Andrade who I just explained, would take the fight.

You can call it it Xenophobic or whatever you wish, but rankings, as you can see with Ryder right now, are manipulated by corruption and avoidance. Fact is that Smith, Fielding, or Billie Joe would get their heads knocked off of their shoulders by most of the guys that I've stated, otherwise they would clamoring for the fights. Cinnabon takes advantage of you defenders of the mid-tier by breaking their faces and looking invincible, while staying far away from the risks. But, carry on you valiant soldier.