Im Starting To Lose Alot of Respect From People On Here!

**Doctor_Tenma** · 09-23-2009, 05:33 PM

Pretty much, Mayweather doesn't get credit for anything. I was also expecting 600K.

**Spacey1991** · 09-23-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by DLT

Look, we all have our biases wether we like to admit them or not. We all have some guys we love and some guys not so much. Then there is some flat out hate and thats what this is coming to.

When the Floyd-JMM fight was made most people said that this fight would do around 600,000. That was the average for most people. However, very quickly this fight was being ripped. All the sales were being ripped and so many people on here, fans, media, Roach, Arum, and so on were saying how bad this fight is going to bomb. They said Floyd was ****** for fighting JMM and this fight will be lucky to do 400,000. You had a ton of people saying that Floyd only had big numbers because of what Oscar & Hatton did and he cant draw flies to **** on his own. They all said that this fight will prove how big of a PPV star he is and he's going to get owned by Pac in negotations after this fight bombs because Pac is the much bigger star. Even just days before the fight people were still clowning the numbers and ticket sales.

Now fast foward. I was watching Dan Rafel on ESPN before the fight and he said all the insiders are now saying that this fight could do Floyd-JMM numbers. Now some are even saying that its done a million or well over a mill. I made a thread like a month ago saying that if this fight did great numbers then people have to man up and give him his props and no one wants to do that. You cannot hate that much. There are alot of things that we can debate on here and argue about but this isnt one of them. It was black & white. We all said that this fight is on Floyd in terms of PPV sales because JMM has had some of the worst PPV numbers ever. Now look. Give the man his due. He clowned everyone on here, the media, Roach, Arum, and no one wants to admit it. He did it. No matter what you think about the man you have to own up to that.

I saw some threads saying that now all the PPV sales were because of JMM. The same JMM who hasnt ever sold anything even in big fights and this is coming from the same guys who said that its all on Floyd before the fight. I saw some guys just write that Floyd didnt do this on his own. Yet when Floyd fans would say that about the Floyd-Oscar fight, people would clown and say that it was all Oscar even though they were setting records. I said the same about Floyd-Hatton since no one in the US knew Hatton but now you guys are trying to flip it. Everything that happeneds you guys try to flip it in your favor. Again, some things are debatable but you cant debate this at all. JMM made more in this fight then basicaly his whole career combined and he sold more in this fight then basicaly his whole career combined. Floyd has probably more than doubled the numbers of Pac against Oscar, Hatton, and JMM. You cant dispute Floyd's drawing power. This fight was prime time on ESPN despite everyone ripping it non stop and calling it a joke fight. Floyd is the man right now when it comes to PPV. Atleast man up and admit that. He's doing it and doing it big

DLT, mate... seriously now, but not many people are gonna read your posts if they are that long. Not saying your posts have no good points, not saying your a bad poster... you probably have some good knowledge... but most people don't like reading stuff that long, they don't mind it the odd time but not all the time.

Seriously, if you shorten them up a bit and sum them up smaller more people would read and respect your posts.

Honestly, with the thread title and all that... most people are just gonna say "I aint reading all that ****!".

**DLT** · 09-23-2009, 05:34 PM

seriously, there have been a ton of fights on the Mexican holiday and no one has sold **** except Oscar so dont give me that crap. Floyd did this. No one even knows JMM but Mexicans and its widely known that he is the least supported of all the Mexican stars. You all ripped him, you all said the fight will bomb, and no one is man enough to own up to it now. This was a huge story going into the fight. There have been a million negative post about Floyd thinking he is a draw and he really isnt. Man up and admit that he is the #1 draw in boxing right now and its not even close.

Did I forget to add that this was on the same night as a UFC PPV card?

**Spacey1991** · 09-23-2009, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by DLT

Look, we all have our biases wether we like to admit them or not. We all have some guys we love and some guys not so much. Then there is some flat out hate and thats what this is coming to.

When the Floyd-JMM fight was made most people said that this fight would do around 600,000. That was the average for most people. However, very quickly this fight was being ripped. All the sales were being ripped and so many people on here, fans, media, Roach, Arum, and so on were saying how bad this fight is going to bomb. They said Floyd was ****** for fighting JMM and this fight will be lucky to do 400,000. You had a ton of people saying that Floyd only had big numbers because of what Oscar & Hatton did and he cant draw flies to **** on his own. They all said that this fight will prove how big of a PPV star he is and he's going to get owned by Pac in negotations after this fight bombs because Pac is the much bigger star. Even just days before the fight people were still clowning the numbers and ticket sales.

Now fast foward. I was watching Dan Rafel on ESPN before the fight and he said all the insiders are now saying that this fight could do Floyd-JMM numbers. Now some are even saying that its done a million or well over a mill. I made a thread like a month ago saying that if this fight did great numbers then people have to man up and give him his props and no one wants to do that. You cannot hate that much. There are alot of things that we can debate on here and argue about but this isnt one of them. It was black & white. We all said that this fight is on Floyd in terms of PPV sales because JMM has had some of the worst PPV numbers ever. Now look. Give the man his due. He clowned everyone on here, the media, Roach, Arum, and no one wants to admit it. He did it. No matter what you think about the man you have to own up to that.

I saw some threads saying that now all the PPV sales were because of JMM. The same JMM who hasnt ever sold anything even in big fights and this is coming from the same guys who said that its all on Floyd before the fight. I saw some guys just write that Floyd didnt do this on his own. Yet when Floyd fans would say that about the Floyd-Oscar fight, people would clown and say that it was all Oscar even though they were setting records. I said the same about Floyd-Hatton since no one in the US knew Hatton but now you guys are trying to flip it. Everything that happeneds you guys try to flip it in your favor. Again, some things are debatable but you cant debate this at all. JMM made more in this fight then basicaly his whole career combined and he sold more in this fight then basicaly his whole career combined. Floyd has probably more than doubled the numbers of Pac against Oscar, Hatton, and JMM. You cant dispute Floyd's drawing power. This fight was prime time on ESPN despite everyone ripping it non stop and calling it a joke fight. Floyd is the man right now when it comes to PPV. Atleast man up and admit that. He's doing it and doing it big

By the way, the fight still might have done less than 600k, I mean it could have done more... but don't be swayed by the reports yet, they are reports and can be wrong... everyone should wait for the proper numbers before jumping to conclusions.

**Bhopreign** · 09-23-2009, 05:35 PM

I lost alot of respect a long time ago too DLT. I dont hate any fighter, there are fighters I prefer over others but I give credit where its due and I admire skills over anything else, not so on this board. Which tells me these arnt real boxing fans.

**DLT** · 09-23-2009, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Spacey1991

DLT, mate... seriously now, but not many people are gonna read your posts if they are that long. Not saying your posts have no good points, not saying your a bad poster... you probably have some good knowledge... but most people don't like reading stuff that long, they don't mind it the odd time but not all the time.

Seriously, if you shorten them up a bit and sum them up smaller more people would read and respect your posts.

Honestly, with the thread title and all that... most people are just gonna say "I aint reading all that ****!".

I know what I do and I always say the same thing in that regard. I always say that I let my opinion be known and I put it out there. If you dont read it then I dont get upset at all. Truthfully I dont read most long things either. You never see me bump my threads or anything. If you want to read it then fine but if not then thats fine also

**SkillspayBills** · 09-23-2009, 05:37 PM

Come no DLT don't be ***** WE ALL KNOW Marquez drinking piss brought in an extra 300k. People wanted to see if he would get the piss beat out him.

If you can't tell that was snark...

**rj_ct** · 09-23-2009, 05:38 PM

Couldn't care less about PPV numbers or how much money a fighter makes (obviously I don't want anyone to retire broke, but you get what I mean.) I watch boxing for the fights.

**Spacey1991** · 09-23-2009, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by DLT

I know what I do and I always say the same thing in that regard. I always say that I let my opinion be known and I put it out there. If you dont read it then I dont get upset at all. Truthfully I dont read most long things either. You never see me bump my threads or anything. If you want to read it then fine but if not then thats fine also

Listen mate, its nothing personal... I mean sometimes I read what you say and sometimes I don't... and sometimes when I do read it I think you make a good point, but what I am saying is... you are here to talk Boxing right? So I am saying if your posts are a little shorter more people would read them and you would get more people replying, and you would be able to talk about the stuff you wanna talk about more... if you get what I mean?

Im Starting To Lose Alot of Respect From People On Here!