Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford: "Jermell Charlo, He's Not On My Level Nor Errol Spence Level"

[Sid-Knee]

Lol, more with the narratives, what slander and propaganda have I spread by stating facts and using logic. Charlo never involved himself in any talks of facing Crawford because it would look like he's letting Bud step around Spence, who Charlo has repeatedly said will crush Crawford, and trying to steal the big fight from his friend and stablemate. He stated that because of how Bud was running his mouth about what his abilities would be at 154, then if he wants to move up and feel what the difference in power between the divisions, he should fight, Lubin, mind you a fighter that Jermell has already knocked out. Charlo wasn't going to allow Bud to talk his way into an undisputed fight at 154, while at the same time ducking the Spence undisputed fight. Simple, but I guess that's to much truth and sense.

Spence can do what he wants as far as moving up or facing a mandatory at this point because Crawford walked away from the fight. Yes, I would rather him fight Thurman than Boots, not to protect him, but because Erroll had to earn his 3 belts by putting in the work and facing the best the division had to offer, and fighting 3 champions to get to his position. Boots hasn't even fought a top 10 fighter in the division yet, but you want the 3 belt champion to offer him the shot before a proven former champion that has fought the likes of Porter, Garcia, and Pacquiao. You can nitpick things about each of those fighters, but Ennis hasn't stepped in the ring with a fighter even close to their level. The thing is, I like Boots and think that he's going to be an elite boxer in multiple divisions over the course of his career, but do it the right way before we crown him. At least fight one top contender before we just reward him with a 3 belt championship fight for knocking out nobodies.

Projecting and gaslighting isn't an answer to what i said.

Be specific and tell me where i tried to create a narrative? I'm the one who brought facts and logic to the thread. I'm not assuming, nor am i trying to protect anyone the way you're doing with anyone PBC.

No one turns down a big fight and asks them to fight someone else. Only someone who isn't confident they can win so want to fob them off onto someone else. Any real fighter would be chomping at the bit if someone who many are calling a P4P fighter wanted to fight them.

You're actually creating a narrative and putting a load of words into Charlo's mouth. He never said any of this. If what you're saying is the case, then he'd just come out and say so. But he factually didn't/ You're making excuses. Laughable ones.

So, due to Crawford not hanging around and letting Haymon keep him out of the ring any longer, Spence can now take a fight no one cares about while a fight people are interested in, doesn't happen again? That's your attempt to protect Spence. Haha. You're soft for attempting this. It makes no sense to not fight Boots and instead take on Thurman. It's the coward's way. Always look for the path of least resistance. However, Spence is going to have to lie as he said he would never fight Thurman. But don't tell me, you'll justify that too? Haha.

You don't want Spence fighting a mandatory even though that is the same way Spence did it? Why would Boots need to fight anyone else to get a shot at a title he's already mandatory for? Who did Spence beat to get his shot at the IBF title?

Boots can't get the chance to prove himself if people like Spence duck him.

You think Boots is all that and going to take over multiple divisions, but he needs to prove himself before we crown him? What?????? Read that back to yourself until you laugh like i am doing. You've just contradicted yourself.

[Rebelrbg]

Projecting and gaslighting isn't an answer to what i said.

Be specific and tell me where i tried to create a narrative? I'm the one who brought facts and logic to the thread. I'm not assuming, nor am i trying to protect anyone the way you're doing with anyone PBC.

No one turns down a big fight and asks them to fight someone else. Only someone who isn't confident they can win so want to fob them off onto someone else. Any real fighter would be chomping at the bit if someone who many are calling a P4P fighter wanted to fight them.

You're actually creating a narrative and putting a load of words into Charlo's mouth. He never said any of this. If what you're saying is the case, then he'd just come out and say so. But he factually didn't/ You're making excuses. Laughable ones.

So, due to Crawford not hanging around and letting Haymon keep him out of the ring any longer, Spence can now take a fight no one cares about while a fight people are interested in, doesn't happen again? That's your attempt to protect Spence. Haha. You're soft for attempting this. It makes no sense to not fight Boots and instead take on Thurman. It's the coward's way. Always look for the path of least resistance. However, Spence is going to have to lie as he said he would never fight Thurman. But don't tell me, you'll justify that too? Haha.

You don't want Spence fighting a mandatory even though that is the same way Spence did it? Why would Boots need to fight anyone else to get a shot at a title he's already mandatory for? Who did Spence beat to get his shot at the IBF title?

Boots can't get the chance to prove himself if people like Spence duck him.

You think Boots is all that and going to take over multiple divisions, but he needs to prove himself before we crown him? What?????? Read that back to yourself until you laugh like i am doing. You've just contradicted yourself.

Nope, won't let you do it . That's like Shakur moving up to 135 and taking a fight against Loma before Devin gets the chance to prove that he can beat him, even though him and Haney have been cool for years. It doesn't mean that Shakur doesn't really want the fight, but Devin deserves it.

Also, Spence fought every big name in the division to earn his shots. I challenge you to state just one big fighter that Boots has fought. And yes, I can see that he's talented, but against who? Boots has every opportunity to prove himself, but who has he beat that we even know? No, that's not 3 belt material. I've been very consistent in stating that I think Spence will break him down methodically because of his defensive flaws, but I also have said, even though Errol doesn't want to do it, Thurman is way more deserving. I don't even know if Ennis could beat Thurman, because Keef has actually been in within the best and won.

Oh yeah, it has nothing to do with PBC, I see again the narrative that you love to push, 'm a big fan of Shakur, Chocolatito, Fulton, Prograis, and many others, its the biased posters like yourself that always try to put someone in your fictional box because they disagree.

[Sid-Knee]

Nope, won't let you do it . That's like Shakur moving up to 135 and taking a fight against Loma before Devin gets the chance to prove that he can beat him, even though him and Haney have been cool for years. It doesn't mean that Shakur doesn't really want the fight, but Devin deserves it.

Also, Spence fought every big name in the division to earn his shots. I challenge you to state just one big fighter that Boots has fought. And yes, I can see that he's talented, but against who? Boots has every opportunity to prove himself, but who has he beat that we even know? No, that's not 3 belt material. I've been very consistent in stating that I think Spence will break him down methodically because of his defensive flaws, but I also have said, even though Errol doesn't want to do it, Thurman is way more deserving. I don't even know if Ennis could beat Thurman, because Keef has actually been in within the best and won.

Oh yeah, it has nothing to do with PBC, I see again the narrative that you love to push, 'm a big fan of Shakur, Chocolatito, Fulton, Prograis, and many others, its the biased posters like yourself that always try to put someone in your fictional box because they disagree.

Won't let me do what? Tell the truth while you're all over the place?

Show me where Charlo said he doesn't want to fight Crawford because he doesn't want to ruin Spence's chances?

Spence beat everyone to get his shot at the IBF title? He beat bums. Not one of them was world level. What are you talking about? The only world level opponent Spence has a legitimate win over is Ugas. He got a gift over Porter and beat Brook and D Garcia who are done. Mikey was too small and doesn't count.

Spence is moving up after his next fight. How can Charlo ruin anything? Spence isn't fighting Crawford, Boots or Charlo. That's some great champion you have there.

Thurman hasn't been in with the best and won. He also got a gift against Porter and lost against a 40-year-old Pac. The only world level win he has is over Danny Garcia. Danny never beat a fighter worth a damn at Welter. Plus, how long ago was that win? It's going on 6 years. Yes, you read that right. 6 years. What has that got to do with the Keith Thurman of today?

You're OK with Spence lying? He'll fight Thurman because he and Haymon want the lesser challenge. It's simple. It's what PBC have been doing for years.

Damn it gets worse for Boots after you said he was going to be a success at multiple weights. Not only does he need to beat someone else even though he's already mandatory, but he'll be broken down and beaten by Spence. Now you think this version of Thurman would beat him. Yet you say he's the future? Doesn't sound like it to me. It's sounds like you're actually all over the place here.

[Rebelrbg]

Won't let me do what? Tell the truth while you're all over the place?

Show me where Charlo said he doesn't want to fight Crawford because he doesn't want to ruin Spence's chances?

Spence beat everyone to get his shot at the IBF title? He beat bums. Not one of them was world level. What are you talking about? The only world level opponent Spence has a legitimate win over is Ugas. He got a gift over Porter and beat Brook and D Garcia who are done. Mikey was too small and doesn't count.

Spence is moving up after his next fight. How can Charlo ruin anything? Spence isn't fighting Crawford, Boots or Charlo. That's some great champion you have there.

Thurman hasn't been in with the best and won. He also got a gift against Porter and lost against a 40-year-old Pac. The only world level win he has is over Danny Garcia. Danny never beat a fighter worth a damn at Welter. Plus, how long ago was that win? It's going on 6 years. Yes, you read that right. 6 years. What has that got to do with the Keith Thurman of today?

You're OK with Spence lying? He'll fight Thurman because he and Haymon want the lesser challenge. It's simple. It's what PBC have been doing for years.

Damn it gets worse for Boots after you said he was going to be a success at multiple weights. Not only does he need to beat someone else even though he's already mandatory, but he'll be broken down and beaten by Spence. Now you think this version of Thurman would beat him. Yet you say he's the future? Doesn't sound like it to me. It's sounds like you're actually all over the place here.

Quite the contrary, I answered every question you had. You just tried to demean all the great welterweight fighters of the last decade because of your nonsensical narratives. You also said that I think Boots has to fight someone else, no, just fight ANYBODY with credibility. All these gifts that you speak of would mean something if the consensus was your opinion. But, you're a hopeless bag of wind and whine, by the way, I was at the Thurman and Porter fight. While we enjoyed ourselves immensely, me and one of my brothers collected the winnings without any dispute.

As far as Charlo, that doesn't have to be said out loud, he just told you unless you're naive. Its a wicked game, and Crawford was baiting him to divide and conquer, but you just can't understand, its never been your reality.

[Sid-Knee]

Quite the contrary, I answered every question you had. You just tried to demean all the great welterweight fighters of the last decade because of your nonsensical narratives. You also said that I think Boots has to fight someone else, no, just fight ANYBODY with credibility. All these gifts that you speak of would mean something if the consensus was your opinion. But, you're a hopeless bag of wind and whine, by the way, I was at the Thurman and Porter fight. While we enjoyed ourselves immensely, me and one of my brothers collected the winnings without any dispute.

As far as Charlo, that doesn't have to be said out loud, he just told you unless you're naive. Its a wicked game, and Crawford was baiting him to divide and conquer, but you just can't understand, its never been your reality.

The part about being a bag of wind is irony personified. When you can't answer a direct question, go for the ad hominem fallacies and writing nonsense.

Show me where Charlo said he doesn't want to fight Crawford because he doesn't want to ruin Spence's chances?

Which top fighters did Spence beat to get his shot at the IBF title? You claimed he beat the best to get the chance. Well? What is the problem in listing these names?

Spence, Crawford, Thurman, Brook etc etc are not great fighters. They're good fighters. Lennox Lewis, Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler are examples of great fighters. You shouldn't be throwing that term around for those that do not deserve it.

How can Charlo ruin anything if Spence is moving up after this next fight?

I'll leave the other questions out until you answer these direct questions.

[BillyBoxing]

Both were in their primes. Castano gives a lot of guys problems for some reason.

The only fighter at 154 the Crawford could have easily beaten is/was Teixeira - and Crawford should have fought him when he had WBO 154. That would have been an easy win and blocked Jermell like he's blocking Spence.

Like maybe that should have been his gimmick, just block unification at 140, 147 and 154 by only winning the WBO which is always held by the weakest champion. Don't bother with unifying, just block others from doing it and that's the legacy: as a career c*ck blocker.

The only reason why Bud is in this position is because PBC has the power at 147, it's pretty much obvious that PBC is not in a hurry to make that fight, I think Bud beats Spence.

[BillyBoxing]

Oh yeah, he definitely struggled, but the level of competition is better! We're not talking about Indongo, Horn, Benavidez and Khan!

A prime Gamboa or Porter are not worse than Harrison or Castano. Bud didn't lose.

[Bronx2245]

A prime Gamboa or Porter are not worse than Harrison or Castano. Bud didn't lose.

Bud did NOT fight a "Prime" Porter! In fact, Porter immediately retired after fighting Bud! The Gamboa win was indeed a great victory, however that was in June 2014!