Ryder has a case for being #2 SMW on the planet.

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  • Silence
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    Ryder has a case for being #2 SMW on the planet.

    I said that multiple times and casuals parried it by weak BS replies. Because they didn't watch him and just looked at his W/L.

    - First of all he is #2 by Boxrec.


    - He beat Smith, Jacobs, Parker and Fielding. That is more than enough to be #2. He has lots of common opponent with Canelo who has the best resume in the division. I don't know if you wanna despise him because of his British origin.

    - He is natural 160 lber who is more comfortable at 168 just like Canelo. He is not natural LHW weightbully dosser like Benavidez, Parker or Morrell. He deserved his payday because of his raw skills. He had height and reach disadvantage in his every single fight.

    As a result, he has the second best resume in the division and has the third best boxing skills in the division just behind Canelo and Plant.

    I understand you casuals wanna huge weightbully dossers against Canelo because of his standards but at the end of the day, skills pay bills.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Silence
    I said that multiple times and casuals parried it by weak BS replies. Because they didn't watch him and just looked at his W/L.

    - First of all he is #2 by Boxrec.


    - He beat Smith, Jacobs, Parker and Fielding. That is more than enough to be #2. He has lots of common opponent with Canelo who has the best resume in the division. I don't know if you wanna despise him because of his British origin.

    - He is natural 160 lber who is more comfortable at 168 just like Canelo. He is not natural LHW weightbully dosser like Benavidez, Parker or Morrell. He deserved his payday because of his raw skills. He had height and reach disadvantage in his every single fight.

    As a result, he has the second best resume in the division and has the third best boxing skills in the division just behind Canelo and Plant.

    I understand you casuals wanna huge weightbully dossers against Canelo because of his standards but at the end of the day, skills pay bills.
    I don't think he beat Jacobs

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    • AKAcronym
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      #3
      He beat Fielding and Smith but as others have said, he should have lost against Jacobs. 168 division is so so at the moment but he's definitely not the second best.

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      • Malvado
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        #4
        Technically he only defeated Parker whose decent and an old ass Jacobs which was controversial. He is a gatekeeper at best.

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        • BLASTER1
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          #5
          Originally posted by Silence
          I said that multiple times and casuals parried it by weak BS replies. Because they didn't watch him and just looked at his W/L.

          - First of all he is #2 by Boxrec.


          - He beat Smith, Jacobs, Parker and Fielding. That is more than enough to be #2. He has lots of common opponent with Canelo who has the best resume in the division. I don't know if you wanna despise him because of his British origin.

          - He is natural 160 lber who is more comfortable at 168 just like Canelo. He is not natural LHW weightbully dosser like Benavidez, Parker or Morrell. He deserved his payday because of his raw skills. He had height and reach disadvantage in his every single fight.

          As a result, he has the second best resume in the division and has the third best boxing skills in the division just behind Canelo and Plant.

          I understand you casuals wanna huge weightbully dossers against Canelo because of his standards but at the end of the day, skills pay bills.
          I get it Nelo can get his tune up but don't make it out as if it's not going to be.
          I know your a canelo fan so I understand your stance. But it's a tune up nothing more nothing less.
          You think Ryder will give Canelo problems

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          • Tony Trick-Pony
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            #6
            John Ryder has a great shot...

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            • STREET CLEANER
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              #7
              Right now because the others have not beaten anyone. Skill wise he is not the second best but according to his competition he is.

              Ryder is not elite. Once he gets countered hard a few times and can hit the target his pressure and volume will go way down.

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              • _Rexy_
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                #8
                John Ryder is top 5 P4P

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