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  • Roadblock
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    #11
    Originally posted by wrecksracer

    Floyd's weight was brought up in the 2nd letter. Did you read Bread's column today? and that was ESPN reporting the IV holes in his arms. If he could make 147 easily, why did he have to receive saline and "vitamins" via IV?
    Did you fall out of a cocoon its been done to death are you for real or officially braindead? Dont you believe Bread when he said he never rehydrated more than 150/151

    Fight night weights are not on billboards because they are not official they are mentioned during the telecast, its said during the Hatton Oscar Manny and Canelo fights, go listen to them, do you want any later in his career lol.

    Haters are so unintelligent it goes with the territory, you cannot be a hater and be smart its scientifically proven and you're another prime example.
    Last edited by Roadblock; 11-26-2022, 04:10 PM.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      Did you fall out of a cocoon its been done to death are you for real or officially braindead? Dont you believe Bread when he said he never rehydrated more than 150/151

      Fight night weights are not on billboards because they are not official they are mentioned during the telecast, its said during the Hatton Oscar Manny and Canelo fights, go listen to them, do you want any later in his career lol.

      Haters are so unintelligent it goes with the territory, you cannot be a hater and be smart its scientifically proven and you're another prime example.
      So if Floyd wasn't having trouble making weight, why did he need an IV with saline and "Vitamins"? That's what Floyd's team said it was.

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        #13
        Excellent commentary… from someone in the know
        I really enjoy the boxing logic too

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          #14
          Originally posted by wrecksracer

          Floyd's weight was brought up in the 2nd letter. Did you read Bread's column today? and that was ESPN reporting the IV holes in his arms. If he could make 147 easily, why did he have to receive saline and "vitamins" via IV?
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          Dude, you are fixated on the PAC vs Floyd pre-fight saga to this day.
          Let’s be clear about one thing, Floyd is the one who started this whole drug testing thing in boxing.
          According the ESPN article, Floyd was granted permission to use IV which is/was legal and PAC was denied the use of some meds for his “injured” rotator cuff, this is what upsets the haters and the PAC nüt-huggers.

          It’s a known fact that Floyd used to walk at 150 Ibs while at 147. Why in the world would he need help rehydrating? You have a better case accusing Floyd of using IV to mask an illegal substance than the rehydration or making weight malarkey.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            Dude, you are fixated on the PAC vs Floyd pre-fight saga to this day.
            Let’s be clear about one thing, Floyd is the one who started this whole drug testing thing in boxing.
            According the ESPN article, Floyd was granted permission to use IV which is/was legal and PAC was denied the use of some meds for his “injured” rotator cuff, this is what upsets the haters and the PAC nüt-huggers.

            It’s a known fact that Floyd used to walk at 150 Ibs while at 147. Why in the world would he need help rehydrating? You have a better case accusing Floyd of using IV to mask an illegal substance than the rehydration or making weight malarkey.
            Well that's what I'm trying to figure out. Why did he need the IV?

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              #16
              Originally posted by wrecksracer

              Well that's what I'm trying to figure out. Why did he need the IV?
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              From what I’ve read so far, Mayweather received the IV treatment which was a saline solution and vitamins.
              These aren’t PEDs as some suggest nor are they steroids. Floyd’s training is known to be extreme so I’d assume this solution makes it easy to heal the body and faster to dehydrate?

              I think this is no different from when Vargas asked to use Gatorade during his fight with Mosley and Golden Boy rejected it. They had to go to arbitration for it.

              A Nevada district court judge on Friday evening issued a temporary restraining order that will prevent Fernando Vargas from drinking Gatorade in his corner between rounds of his junior middleweight rematch against Shane Mosley on Saturday night.


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              • Roadblock
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                #17
                Originally posted by wrecksracer

                Well that's what I'm trying to figure out. Why did he need the IV?
                Its been done to death, why cant you go through the old threads that cover it, and the big issue here is you have never dried out to make weight, its real easy for your body to drop too quickly and then the risk is going too far where oral wont do it, as a consequence your electrolytes can get messed up, especially potassium, 750 ml is a very small dose for 150lb man, Ive used 2000ml on a 68lb greyhound that got over excited on a 4 hr drive to the races, lucky it was the night before which gave me time to rehydrate him using IV ringers solution.

                The trouble with fans is they don't know enough, they only know the narrative of people that look for something to hate on.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Roadblock

                  Its been done to death, why cant you go through the old threads that cover it, and the big issue here is you have never dried out to make weight, its real easy for your body to drop too quickly and then the risk is going too far where oral wont do it, as a consequence your electrolytes can get messed up, especially potassium, 750 ml is a very small dose for 150lb man, Ive used 2000ml on a 68lb greyhound that got over excited on a 4 hr drive to the races, lucky it was the night before which gave me time to rehydrate him using IV ringers solution.

                  The trouble with fans is they don't know enough, they only know the narrative of people that look for something to hate on.
                  I used to wrestle. I know all about making weight. We're talking about a guy that has no issue making 147. He shouldn't need to dry out. He fought at his walk around weight.
                  Last edited by wrecksracer; 11-27-2022, 10:45 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by wrecksracer

                    I used to wrestle. I know all about making weight. We're talking about a guy that has no issue making 147. He shouldn't need to dry out. He fought at his walk around weight.
                    Ahhhhhhh , I hate talking to dimwits that think they know, its just a merry-go-round of BS.

                    They all dry out some more than others.

                    The level of athlete he is at is light years from anything you know, you played twiddly winks I know this by the questions you ask and your assumptions are so basic, you know very little about making weight especially critical weight when trained to perfection.

                    Walk-around weight is weight, training rearranges that weight into a different configuration of the same weight, you can be fat or ripped and weigh the same.

                    I used to wrestle too, wtf does that even mean, in the backyard, or Olympic level, and it ain't close to boxing, a top-level guy with fighting pit bulls or racehorses will know infinitely more than you on the subject.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Roadblock

                      Ahhhhhhh , I hate talking to dimwits that think they know, its just a merry-go-round of BS.

                      They all dry out some more than others.

                      The level of athlete he is at is light years from anything you know, you played twiddly winks I know this by the questions you ask and your assumptions are so basic, you know very little about making weight especially critical weight when trained to perfection.

                      Walk-around weight is weight, training rearranges that weight into a different configuration of the same weight, you can be fat or ripped and weigh the same.

                      I used to wrestle too, wtf does that even mean, in the backyard, or Olympic level, and it ain't close to boxing, a top-level guy with fighting pit bulls or racehorses will know infinitely more than you on the subject.
                      Yeah, I suspected you were an idiot, Now I'm sure. "They all dry out some more than others." Dude, come on. A professional athlete who can easily make weight still dries himself out to the point where he needs an IV? A guy that still could have been fighting at 140 was still drying himself out? Why would he do that? For fun? And the IV hole was spotted on fight week. You're saying he exerted himself to the point where he needed an IV on fight week?
                      Last edited by wrecksracer; 11-28-2022, 12:30 AM.

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