Comments Thread For: Porter Doesn't Like Thurman's Chances In Possible Spence Bout: 'Good Can't Beat Great'

[hitmanjosh]

I know exactly what I 'm talking about, just go down the list of the top 10 ranked at 147 and tell me which one of them Boots has fought. You don't get to fight for 3 belts by fighting and knocking out mid-tier to waste of time fighters.

U don't know sh_tttt and couldn't fight your way outta of kinder garden class!

[ShoulderRoll]

Someone is going to have to explain to me when Ugas became great. He was beaten by 3 prospects. Basically, he was a feeder guppy unlike Lara, Rigo, etc. I guess the faded Manny win.

Pacquiao lost earlier in his career too then got better. It happens.

Ugas beat Porter but got robbed. He also beat Pac who you say was faded, but sh-t...that faded version of Pac beat Keith Thurman.

[Rebelrbg]

Honestly I don't believe it is fear. I think it has more to do with the state of boxing. Thurman not fighting Spence back then or Spence not fighting Boots now or Crawford not pushing for Ortiz or Boots all have the same connotation. A perceived high risk fight with not enough reward. If there is money in those fights and no other big money fight on the horizon, they will take those fights. Thurman the was busy chasing Floyd, Errol now was busy getting Crawford and vice versa and Thurman while his utterances is more in favor of fighting Spence, if Spence or Crawford wasn't available and Al Haymon puts up enough money for Boots, he will have no choice to take the fight. It's the same reason Boots is not kicking down the down to fight Ortiz and vice versa. So I say while a small percentage of the reason has some inclination of ducking, the larger percentage just comes down to the business of boxing and these fighters have learned well too.

While I can agree with the business part as it applies to most cases, but not in the Spence-Thurman scenario. Both of them had belts, and Spence had a following just as large as Thurman's, so it would definitely have been a fight that generated money, not Floyd money, but good money. Boots and Ortiz really should be fighting fighters in the top 5 or 10 to give them leverage when requesting championship fights, even before fighting each other. They are pigeonholing themselves by trying to demand these champions to fight them when the fights won't generate the type of money for the champions to see the risk as worthwhile, as it would if these guys were already making money fighting top contenders.

[Rebelrbg]

U don't know sh_tttt and couldn't fight your way outta of kinder garden class!

Your a funny guy, as I've told you before, I feel your pain, they shouldn't have touched, I mean, hurt you like that, you didn't deserve it, and it wasn't your fault. I'm here for you, just let me know and I'll help.

[boxingitis]

Ortiz and Boots haven't fought anyone to get a shot at fighting for 3 belts. They should fight a least a top contender or try to get a shot at Crawford's 1 belt that he's holding hostage. At least Thurman has fought champions and the top fighters in the division, and been a champion himself. Everyone keeps trying to just hand these guys a championship fight, they should earn it.

Thurman cant beat Ortiz or Boots, are you blind. Thats why he want 10 million for boot, but yeah, Crawford is the one ABOUT THE MONEY.

[boxingitis]

Boooo, same old misguided rhetoric. Tell Boots to fight a top 5 fighter first. Also, why isn't Boots calling 1 belt Crawford, if he will fight Avanesyen, then would fight Boots, right?

Yeah Spence, he is top 5. Boots number 1 in the IBF ranking.He earned his shot.

[Rebelrbg]

Thurman cant beat Ortiz or Boots, are you blind. Thats why he want 10 million for boot, but yeah, Crawford is the one ABOUT THE MONEY.

No, I'm not blind. I've seen Boots and Ortiz demolishing throw away fighters, while I see Thurman with the body of work of a champion with one loss to a legend. You have nothing but your biased opinion to base your reasoning for assuming that they are better than Thurman. Opponents prove worth, not hype.

[Rebelrbg]

Yeah Spence, he is top 5. Boots number 1 in the IBF ranking.He earned his shot.

He's number one, now fight a top 5 or even 10 opponent before he is GIVEN the chance to fight for 3 belts. I don't think that's unreasonable, Spence had to prove himself BEFORE he was put in position to fight 3 champions for 3 straps.

[PunchyPotorff]

I agree with Porter. And I say it every time, but all an opponent has to do is keep targeting thurmos body,
and it's match over. And I actually think Spence stops him, late rounds. A good fight for the fans.

[boxingitis]

He's number one, now fight a top 5 or even 10 opponent before he is GIVEN the chance to fight for 3 belts. I don't think that's unreasonable, Spence had to prove himself BEFORE he was put in position to fight 3 champions for 3 straps.

Old, injured, inactive, going to decision with Barrios Keith Thurman is much better opponent. Just have Spence fights his eating habits, thats probably a tougher challenge.