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  • #11
    Roberto Duran trying to say Canelo a b!tch on the cool. No Mexican style.
    Last edited by willieb24; 11-21-2022, 08:10 AM.

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    • #12
      Duran doesn't mention something important. Canelo usually fights people taller than him, and getting inside has never been hard for him in over 60 previous fights. So it's not that he doesn't know how to get inside. It's that he doesn't know how to get inside on Bivol. Bivol is not like anyone Canelo has ever fought. He has exceptional legs, exceptional control of distance, exceptional timing, exceptional focus and calm under pressure, exceptional accuracy, exceptional conditioning. Bivol is exceptional in many ways and he doesn't allow Canelo to get inside. Canelo can go in the gym and spar with heavier guys who box him, but they won't be anything like being in front of Bivol, because he's exceptional in many areas. He's also exceptional in his ring IQ. So no matter what Canelo does, Bivol will nullify it with his IQ.

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      • #13
        Canelo knows that if he did rematch immediately, that it would of been worse. Bivol has been in with him now, and he sees that he has nothing to be afraid of. Bivol would be more aggressive in trying to finish him when he has him hurt this time, instead of just beating him up and winning all of the rounds. He was letting Cinnabon off the hook on many occasions during the last fight because he was content to beat the myth of who the public said his opponent was. Now, Ginger is no longer this big, bad myth to him, Bivol knows that Cinnabon is not on his level and would destroy him.

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        • #14
          Glad to hear Duran is still watching boxing and commenting after all those hard fights. He wants Canelo to get Bivol, maybe because Duran is half mexican and loyal to latinos. Or maybe he really sees something Canelo could do to get inside. Canelo caught Bivol with some hard uppercuts but Bivol took them, so who knows?

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          • #15
            Dont forget Canelo went seeking greatness at 175 unlike many current belt holders.
            Thuglife Nelo Thuglife Nelo likes this.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by archiemoore1 View Post
              …exceptional timing, exceptional focus and calm under pressure, exceptional accuracy, exceptional conditioning.
              I agree that Bivol’s conditioning is superb, but I also think he’s capitalizing on a gift that Alvarez simply doesn’t have. Bivol has iron-man level cardio “talent,” if that’s the right word. Bivol has a super-high energy style, and yet he looks as fresh after 12 rounds as he looks in the first round. There’s no amount of road work that can give a man something like that. It’s a gift -- like being able to throw a 105 mph fastball, or run a hundred meters under 10 seconds. Those are people who capitalized on a gift that others simply don’t have. This is why I can’t see Alvarez ever beating Bivol in a lengthy fight. If Alvarez has any chance at all, he’ll have to swing for an early knockout. If Canelo lets Bivol gas him out (again), he’s toast.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Liondw View Post
                Duran is one of the best ever, a living legend.

                But probably shouldn't talk about how much better he trained for rematches, considering the infamous rematch with Leonard.

                What a great fighter though, aside from when he was ko'd by Hearns, I can't recall any other fighter putting him down. I think it was at super middleweight that he beat Barkley in a great fight. So, a nice fantasy fight would've been Duran vs Canelo. Just saying.
                I have told both the Leonard rematch and Hearns story here several times.

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                • #18
                  Duran was able to get in on SRL in fight 1, but Duran was MUCH faster afoot than Canelo. Canelo is slow on his feet. That's the fly in the ointment. Bivol could circle and change directions much quicker than Canelo could advance, turn and set to punch, and it wasn't close. Also Canelo is credited with being a much bigger puncher than he is. He couldn't even knock a past prime GGG off balance in 3 fights. Jacobs also went the distance with him unscathed, and those fights were at a lower weight class. He couldn't have handled the 37 year old Roberto Duran that beat Barkley, or Barkley himself. We won't even mention Hagler or Hearns. Maybe he could've gotten in, if Hearns let him, but would he have come back out? I don't see how. Maybe horizontally.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by topo5358 View Post
                    Duran was able to get in on SRL in fight 1, but Duran was MUCH faster afoot than Canelo. Canelo is slow on his feet. That's the fly in the ointment. Bivol could circle and change directions much quicker than Canelo could advance, turn and set to punch, and it wasn't close. Also Canelo is credited with being a much bigger puncher than he is. He couldn't even knock a past prime GGG off balance in 3 fights. Jacobs also went the distance with him unscathed, and those fights were at a lower weight class. He couldn't have handled the 37 year old Roberto Duran that beat Barkley, or Barkley himself. We won't even mention Hagler or Hearns. Maybe he could've gotten in, if Hearns let him, but would he have come back out? I don't see how. Maybe horizontally.
                    Canelo isn’t slow. Canelo evaded a 20 punch combo assault by Bivol. Nobody in boxing could do that, assuming we’re crediting Bivol’s speed

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by jackblack008 View Post
                      Dont forget Canelo went seeking greatness at 175 unlike many current belt holders.
                      Omg, seeking greatness and a cherry pick gone wrong are 2 different things. JS

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