Comments Thread For: Stevenson: If Little Puppy Cruz Doesn't Want Fight, Bring On Zepeda, Kambosos

[Ghost Jab]

Cruz is successful because he has a very low center of gravity and a chin of steel. Tank was unable to hurt him, although he did outbox him.

Shakur Stevenson is a fine up and coming boxer who is going to make a noise in this world. I have a doubtful predisposition concerning anyone being able to defeat him at this time.

While I like Cruz a great deal, I would think he’d likely suffer a loss by decision to Stevenson, if they fought.

[Sid-Knee]

Well that depends on if you’re dis*****g a widely accepted fact that Lewis beat shot versions of Tyson and Holyfield. Can’t have it both ways where you want to run down ones guys wins vs past prime fighters while simultaneously using wins over past prime fighters to justify your argument that Lewis should be considered the greatest ever.

Tyson was clearly past his best. But he wasn't shot. He was still a good fighter. He proved it around that time beating Golota. It was a good win. It wasn't a very good or a great win like it would be over a prime Tyson, but it was still good.

Who said Holyfield was shot? And for what reasons? I know the time very well. It was due to Holyfield having problems on connecting on a smaller opponent in Czyz. That doesn't in any way show Holyfield to be shot. That's dumb. He was just used to fighting bigger opponents. Holyfield clearly won the fight. Then we had those same idiots claim that Holyfield may not even leave with his life against Tyson, only to get in there and prove those idiots wrong on both counts by dominating and KO'ing Tyson. In what way was Holyfield shot? Haha.

Holyfield was having his best spell at Heavy from Tyson to Lewis. Holyfield was pretty much in his prime. Louis had retired for 2 and a half years before coming back due to money worries. He looked like shlt against some bums and lost to a former Middleweight and LH in Charles. Then he gets KO'd by Marciano and retires again. Louis was completely shot. neither Tyson, and especially Holyfield, were anywhere near close to being like that.

[Kannabis Kid]

Yeah, why don't you post the evidence like i can with thousands of examples. I mean, you're not a delusional weirdo who is actually guilty of everything you're projecting onto me which shows how damaged in the head you actually are or anything.

Just keep humiliating yourself in the way you know how.

Damn you went silent again, sad dude but it's not the first time just like the Adames thread.

[rrayvez]

Tyson was clearly past his best. But he wasn't shot. He was still a good fighter. He proved it around that time beating Golota. It was a good win. It wasn't a very good or a great win like it would be over a prime Tyson, but it was still good.

Who said Holyfield was shot? And for what reasons? I know the time very well. It was due to Holyfield having problems on connecting on a smaller opponent in Czyz. That doesn't in any way show Holyfield to be shot. That's dumb. He was just used to fighting bigger opponents. Holyfield clearly won the fight. Then we had those same idiots claim that Holyfield may not even leave with his life against Tyson, only to get in there and prove those idiots wrong on both counts by dominating and KO'ing Tyson. In what way was Holyfield shot? Haha.

Holyfield was having his best spell at Heavy from Tyson to Lewis. Holyfield was pretty much in his prime. Louis had retired for 2 and a half years before coming back due to money worries. He looked like shlt against some bums and lost to a former Middleweight and LH in Charles. Then he gets KO'd by Marciano and retires again. Louis was completely shot. neither Tyson, and especially Holyfield, were anywhere near close to being like that.

You’re actually stating that a 36/37 year old Holyfield was pretty much in his prime? Did you see what he looked like in the 3rd match with Bowe? Did you see how he looked vs Czyz? Did you see how he looked right after fighting Lewis vs Ruiz? Just because he beat an also shot Tyson doesn’t rationalize saying he was pretty much in his prime. You are not a rational debater and clearly operate with significant bias. Continuing beyond this point is guaranteed to be a waste of my time. Take care.

[Jab jab boom]

I copy and pasted it in the main forum we were on. ******. I've already told you that.

Show me where i'm a proven liar? You can't, can you. Show me where i'm a coward like you are backing down from everything? You can't do that either. Simple questions you have no answers to.

Why aren't you explaining how to disprove something that didn't happen? Too scared to? Why? Are the mean questions too much for you to handle? Haha.

Since you like posting on the main forum, do the following you pathetic begger for truces.

Share with everyone on this thread how you believe that foreman doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc. Lastly, let everyone know that you believe that Lennox Lewis is the greatest heavyweight of all time and significantly greater than Muhammad Ali.

[BoxingIsGreat]

The personal beefs between the members here have hijacked many good threads recently. Always the same people too. Ceasefire. Be done with. Nobody wants your negative energy. Or maybe get a ban if you continue?

[Sid-Knee]

Damn you went silent again, sad dude but it's not the first time just like the Adames thread.

Where is the evidence? Why just another pointless deflection? Back yourself up? Oh wait, you never can. Just narcissism, lies and delusion. But i'll wait for the evidence for what you're claiming.

[Sid-Knee]

You’re actually stating that a 36/37 year old Holyfield was pretty much in his prime? Did you see what he looked like in the 3rd match with Bowe? Did you see how he looked vs Czyz? Did you see how he looked right after fighting Lewis vs Ruiz? Just because he beat an also shot Tyson doesn’t rationalize saying he was pretty much in his prime. You are not a rational debater and clearly operate with significant bias. Continuing beyond this point is guaranteed to be a waste of my time. Take care.

Damn, are you already trying to run off?

Yes, Holyfield was pretty much prime at 36. Why, do you think that's old for a Heavyweight? I guess Lewis was shot too then?

Holyfield didn't look good in the 3rd Bowe fight, but that doesn't mean a fighter is shot. Was Barrera shot after not looking good in the first Jr Jones loss? Was Lewis shot after the McCall loss?

I did watch the Czyz fight. It was just his accuracy being off as he was used to bigger fighters. If you based this "Logic" to every fighter, they'd all be shot whilst still in their prime. I mean, you're the one who is claiming Louis as not being shot here. Do you not understand the extreme irony? When was the last time Louis had even beaten a world class fighter? Holyfield was looking better than he'd ever looked in the Tyson to Lewis period. The only time he didn't was the first fight with Lennox. He had wins over Tyson twice, Moorer, then after he had wins over Rahman and Ruiz.

Who cares what Holyfield looked like AFTER Lewis? The only thing that matters is beforehand. Holyfield knew he wasn't getting his hands on the undisputed title now Lewis had it so his motivation wasn't anywhere near close. Circumstances change. But he still looked much better than Louis did at any point after being away for 2 and a half years. That's for sure.

Tyson was shot too? Are you f3cking serious here? Tyson wasn't in his prime, but he wasn't that far from it at that point. It was just his lack of head movement and loading up that got him into trouble. He was still a very good fighter when against Holyfield.

But let's get back to the original point. Who did Marciano beat that makes him world class?

[Sid-Knee]

Since you like posting on the main forum, do the following you pathetic begger for truces.

Share with everyone on this thread how you believe that foreman doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc. Lastly, let everyone know that you believe that Lennox Lewis is the greatest heavyweight of all time and significantly greater than Muhammad Ali.

Oh look, it's another deflection. Do you not understand questions in English? When you make a claim, you're supposed to back it up. Why are you running away from backing yourself up? You prefer to humiliate yourself instead?

I'll repeat the questions...

Show me where i'm a proven liar? You can't, can you. Show me where i'm a coward like you are backing down from everything? You can't do that either. Simple questions you have no answers to.

Why aren't you explaining how to disprove something that didn't happen? Too scared to? Why? Are the mean questions too much for you to handle? Haha

[Jab jab boom]

Oh look, it's another deflection. Do you not understand questions in English? When you make a claim, you're supposed to back it up. Why are you running away from backing yourself up? You prefer to humiliate yourself instead?

I'll repeat the questions...

Show me where i'm a proven liar? You can't, can you. Show me where i'm a coward like you are backing down from everything? You can't do that either. Simple questions you have no answers to.

Why aren't you explaining how to disprove something that didn't happen? Too scared to? Why? Are the mean questions too much for you to handle? Haha

I control what hapones you you inferior euro trash Brit. I answer nothing until you
Share with everyone on this thread how you believe that foreman doesn’t deserve to be in the hall of fame. Also tell them how Frazier, Holmes and Marciano aren’t deserving hall of famers but Naz is 1000% a deserving hall of famer. Also let them know that you believe Aj is deserving of being ranked higher as a heavyweight above Holmes, Marciano, jack johnson, Klitchko, Joe Louis, etc. Lastly, let everyone know that you believe that Lennox Lewis is the greatest heavyweight of all time and significantly greater than Muhammad Ali.