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  • Mr.NiceGuy
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    #191
    Originally posted by champion4ever
    The cure all is to take your back end money; The percentage and be done with it and then all parties involved; Including boxing fans would be satisfied. It's just that plain and simple.
    I do agree with you but what TC said is that they won't give him full disclosure/info on the back end therefore paying him whatever they want

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    • Mr.NiceGuy
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      #192
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
      The PBC is all but dead. Spence will move up to avoid a Bud because he’s a *****. He was always leery of Bud. We all know that they were never going to fight in Nov. But Spence’s fans came to his defense and blamed Bud when they should’ve blamed Spence and Haymon. Now all of a sudden they can’t make a fight. Ward, Jones Jr and Porter all knew that the fight wouldn’t get made. Bradley too. Spence is a bonafide Haymon *****…
      Damn Raggamuffin!! with that profile pic you are undisputed and always right

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      • Mr.NiceGuy
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        #193
        Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355

        All those fights you bring up lost money.
        And who told us that?

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        • Mr.NiceGuy
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          #194
          Originally posted by Raggamuffin
          Here is what you all didn’t know. Haymon was always going to make Spence fight Thurman. He was the one who probably contacted the WBC to make Thurman the mandatory. Haymon said, we’ll send Bud a ****ty offer, hope that he doesn’t take it, and keep it in house and make the Thurman fight.
          Send out word to a Spence’s YouTube and forum bloggers that Bud is a coward, and say that he ducked so we can ok the fact that Spence, who said that he would never fight Thurman…is fighting Thurman.

          The duck and hate campaign is over. The PBC will be done soon when Paramount takes over. Haymon said… If I lose Spence after he loses to Bud I’m down one less fighter that I can line my pockets up with, sign, Albert or Allenthall Haymon.
          Can't say for sure but its a sh**show possibility

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          • Mr.NiceGuy
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            #195
            Originally posted by champion4ever

            Well you might as well get used to it because it is the way of the world. It's the PBC business model. Unlike TR, they don't believe in investing a lot of money on low reward fighters who lack crossover mainstream casual fans.
            Yep, the sport is more like reality tv no real talent just popularity with flash and hype

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            • Mr.NiceGuy
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              #196
              Originally posted by archiemoore1
              Al Haymon is one of the most powerful ppl in boxing. He has clout with trainers, managers, promoters, lawyers, cable and tv execs, venues, casinos, satellite providers, and anyone else involved in making a fight. He can get almost anything done in the sport of boxing. So if a PBC backed fight doesn't get made, it's simply because Al Haymon doesn't want it to happen. Who doesn't have common sense enough to understand that- raise ur hand?!? Knowing this fact, its real weird how many ppl try to blame Bud for not getting the fight made.
              It's not hard to envision Floyd being an advisor of sorts to Haymon regarding matchmaking, with his boxing IQ, I'm sure his opinion goes a long way with Haymon. And I do believe Floyd is a major part of the c.ckblock. i'm sure he's told Haymon that there's a helluva possibility that Errol will lose to Bud, and Haymon probably feels like the only way Bud gets that fight is if he signs with PBC, plus takes such a small slice of the money that fight will generate, that its almost like fighting for free. He wants Bud to crawl on his hands and knees and lick the ground for that fight. Because he feels like Bud let Arum control 2/3 of his career, and now for the last 1/3, being that Bud doesn't wanna let Haymon have control of him, he'll never pay him his value. He'll crumb him to death at this point. Its big egos, pride, jealousy, and fear involved and thats why this fight may never be made. Floyd is a major hater and anyone can easily see that. He's jealous of Bud. He knows Bud would have beaten him. He doesn't want to see Bud shine. If Bud beats Errol, he hurts PBC in a big way. Ppl will then realize why it took so long to make the fight, and who was stopping it. Ppl will also then start to say Bud would have whipped Floyd if they were both in their prime, and Floyd doesn't wanna hear that. But its already true in my opinion. And he'll whip Errol too, if they ever meet in the ring
              Excellent post Mongoose!!

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              • Mr.NiceGuy
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                #197
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                Its fan BS lol not any evidence of what has come out at all, just a fan giving a fan narrative about hate, you boys are so dam gullible.
                There will never be any real evidence for us, all we can do is speculate but some things just make sense if common sense is applied and it still may not be 100% correct. The ****** rich always control the narrative

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                • Mr.NiceGuy
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                  People were surprised that Spence Bud wasn’t made, but not me. I saw all of this a while ago after Thurman came back. He’s the last of the relevant PBC welterweights. It made sense for Haymon to make that fight. It made sense to try to lamely say Bud didn’t want the fight. It was the plan all along. Only thing is that Spence said that he wouldn’t fight Thurman, but now Spence’s fans are screaming “Thurman would be Buds best win”! They like Thurman Spence now, now that Thurman isn’t the same fighter that he once was. I’m not ****en ******, lmao. Business by Haymon is why this fight wasn’t made, but you Spence clowns will defend him at all costs.
                  I would have been shocked if the fight was made. The in house Thurman fight was going to happen anyway billed fight of the decade if he hadn't lost to PacMan. Crawford was never part of the equation. The only ones taking it personal is us true fans because we are the ones getting shortchanged and for them its just biz as usual nothing personal

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                  • satiev1
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                    #199
                    Crawford should not take the fight if he dosen't have access to the books. Makes no sense.

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                    • TheIronMike
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by satiev1
                      Crawford should not take the fight if he dosen't have access to the books. Makes no sense.
                      This was provided for him, and he still walked away.

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