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  • jvsnypes
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    #211
    I agree with MrFactor 100%. Professional boxing is a business,but when an all time great challenges you to your face in front of the world on national tv,its now personal. If you consider yourself the best,how can you not accept the challenge?If that was Andre Berto who is an up and comer challenging Floyd,I could understand him blowing it off.But when an established and current ww champ and p4p legend makes the challenge, it is an insult to the fighter,the sport of boxing, and the fans to turn it down. Pacquiao vs Mayweather is a huge fight.But if you truly understand boxing, you know that a great big man will normally beat a very good little man.I can already imagine Manny leaping into Floyd's big left hooks.It would start out exciting at first,but by the 6th round,Floyd would be in complete control.Floyd's fight with Marquez expressed that even more.It would end up being an easy fight and fans will be very disappointed.On the other hand, a fight with Shane would be the opposite.It would start off slow but by the 3rd round the fireworks would start.Shane will not be intimidated by Floyd's speed because he possesses the same gift. He throws better combinations, goes to the body more often and has KO power in both hands.Plus, he is the busier fighter.I remember the problems that Floyd had with Zab Judah's speed,but Zab was not a durable fighter and wore down.Shane has that same speed and more pop in his punches and can fight all 12 rounds.Come to think of it, I guess I see why Floyd isn't committing to fighting him.

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    • BoxingChaos
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      #212
      Originally posted by jvsnypes
      I agree with MrFactor 100%. Professional boxing is a business,but when an all time great challenges you to your face in front of the world on national tv,its now personal. If you consider yourself the best,how can you not accept the challenge?If that was Andre Berto who is an up and comer challenging Floyd,I could understand him blowing it off.But when an established and current ww champ and p4p legend makes the challenge, it is an insult to the fighter,the sport of boxing, and the fans to turn it down. Pacquiao vs Mayweather is a huge fight.But if you truly understand boxing, you know that a great big man will normally beat a very good little man.I can already imagine Manny leaping into Floyd's big left hooks.It would start out exciting at first,but by the 6th round,Floyd would be in complete control.Floyd's fight with Marquez expressed that even more.It would end up being an easy fight and fans will be very disappointed.On the other hand, a fight with Shane would be the opposite.It would start off slow but by the 3rd round the fireworks would start.Shane will not be intimidated by Floyd's speed because he possesses the same gift. He throws better combinations, goes to the body more often and has KO power in both hands.Plus, he is the busier fighter.I remember the problems that Floyd had with Zab Judah's speed,but Zab was not a durable fighter and wore down.Shane has that same speed and more pop in his punches and can fight all 12 rounds.Come to think of it, I guess I see why Floyd isn't committing to fighting him.
      All well said but you forgot to mention Shane's granite chin.
      Too many reasons why Floyd wont take the fear factor challenge against Shane.

      This just proves that Floyd is yellow.

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      • GRUSTLER
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        #213
        Originally posted by BoxingChaos
        All well said but you forgot to mention Shane's granite chin.
        Too many reasons why Floyd wont take the fear factor challenge against Shane.

        This just proves that Floyd is yellow.
        Shane Mosley went 12 rounds with an injured Luis Collazo
        and got beat to the punch and neutralized by Miguel Cotto?
        Why would floyd be scared to fight Shane Mosley?

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          #214
          Bull**** article, all I know is that I want to see Mayweather vs Mosley.

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            #215
            Originally posted by MrFactor
            Not such a great article. The question is simple. Who else is mayweather going to fight and maintain some credibility. Mosley stated so all can see, he is willing to do the damn thing. Nothing wrong with that. If there's anyone to blame for taking Floyd's moment, its Max. Max brought Mosely's name up and the man was right there to answer. What was Mosley supposed to do?? Was he supposed to say, "I want the fight," then walk away like some sucker. No, he did what he was supposed to do. He wants the fight and waited for Floyd's response. Floyd stuttered his way through some incoherent answer all while not letting go of Mosley's hand.

            Mosley did the right thing. Hatton called Floyd out on national TV, he got the fight. JMM called him out on national TV, he got the fight. Mosley calls him out on TV(in front of his face), he's wrong?? Yeah right. Another self serving Mayweather fans article. I could get behind Mayweather if he wasnt so transparent. He claims he's one of the greatest to lace em up, but has not foughth the best guys of his era. One of the best of this era was staring him in the face, challenging him to a fight and all Mayweather did was stutter and hold hands...
            yup......this is how I see it also

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              #216
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              Shane Mosley went 12 rounds with an injured Luis Collazo
              and got beat to the punch and neutralized by Miguel Cotto?
              Why would floyd be scared to fight Shane Mosley?
              Naazim Richardson is Mosley's trainer now!!!.....Cotto wouldn't beat Shane today IMO because of Naazim's ability to prepare fighters BETTER than dumb ass Jack Mosley!!!....Floyd is smart.....he knows Shane and Naazim are capable of a game plan that could take that perfect record right off his hands and put him on his ass!!!......Floyd is not AFRAID of noone......he's just AFRAID to lose and Shane is capable of beating him with the RIGHT game plan!!!.......Naazim is very capable of coming up with a strategy that Shane CAN implement!!

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                #217
                Originally posted by Tom Flores

                Do you really think Mosley didn't fight Floyd because he was chicken****,

                or was the reality that DLH is Mosleys boss and basically gets first crack at any opponent?


                I would ask you to think about it, but it would require you to actually think for yourself.
                i was replying to a question someone had asked me and if you had read any of my earlier posts,i was saying the main reason any of these lot dont fight each other is for money and busniess reasons,so dont jump in the middle and start telling me to actually think because i do know what im on about

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                • Lacrimosa
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by BoxingChaos
                  LMAO!

                  Here you go son



                  You can find part 2 on youtube.

                  But Floyd says he would not fight Cotto

                  Because
                  Cotto live in Puerto Rico
                  Arum was a grumpy old man
                  Cotto had to be his CEO of his own company

                  This list goes on.

                  Carefull what you ask for.

                  I might post the other videos if you are aren't convinced.

                  HYSTERICAL!!!!

                  I usually don`t like such kind o stuff, but this one is... OH MAN!!!

                  I`m still LOLing
                  Last edited by Lacrimosa; 09-24-2009, 04:58 AM.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by SekondzOut
                    Naazim Richardson is Mosley's trainer now!!!.....Cotto wouldn't beat Shane today IMO because of Naazim's ability to prepare fighters BETTER than dumb ass Jack Mosley!!!....Floyd is smart.....he knows Shane and Naazim are capable of a game plan that could take that perfect record right off his hands and put him on his ass!!!......Floyd is not AFRAID of noone......he's just AFRAID to lose and Shane is capable of beating him with the RIGHT game plan!!!.......Naazim is very capable of coming up with a strategy that Shane CAN implement!!
                    I know it's your opinion but I don't think Mosley is capable of beating Pbf now more than ever. He did not have the same size advantage as before ( I believe Pbf is now bigger pre Pbf-Jmm ). He really looked good against Margarito but Margarito is a slow WW. He will also not have this advantage against Pbf. Plus, I never saw him demonstrate lateral quickness in his previous fights. Pbf will just shoulder him to death. Plus, he is older now and almost a year remove from the margarito fight (ring rust?).

                    I like to Naazim-Mosley tandem and hoping they could land a fight with pbf in the future. I don't know yet if Naazim could get off a good strategy. I do not know much about him except the Pavlik-Bhop and Margarito-Mosley fight. And both Margarito and Pavlik are both slow fighters and largely depend of power and pressure to win. That is not Pbf style. This is not a rub-off against Shane or Naazim as I admire their body of work. This is just what I see now. Feel free to correct.

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                    • JakeNDaBox
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                      #220
                      Splitting this up because it's easier to respond in parts than as a whole...

                      Originally posted by Iceta
                      Yeah, and not only that, when Mosley decides to fight Berto because of Mayweather's ducking ass watch these Floyd apologists accuse Mosley of going in another direction.
                      I don't doubt that Floyd will resort to such tactics - or at least don't put it past him. But my thing is that Shane should've had that locked up a long time ago. I don't want to say he was greedy, but certainly blind with optimism in thinking that either Pac or Hatton would immediately call him out after their fight. Three months on the sidelines without lining up a fight is idiotic, especially when you're holding out only for big fights.

                      A Berto fight should be a cakewalk for Shane, not to mention another trinket in his possession, thus taking away any other option for Floyd, Pac, Cotto, whomever. He had that fight all along, but now might be stuck with it next January - 53 weeks after the Margarito fight. And that's IF DiBella doesn't instead decide to do Berto-Hlatshwayo.

                      Perhaps I'm beating a dead horse with this, but Shane had options all along. They just weren't at the top of his list, therefore ignored until it was too late.

                      They bring up anything that happened in the past to keep this fight from happening. So why wouldn't they look for something to happen in the future?
                      I agree, this is petty. I'm tired of hearing about when the fight could've been made in the past. The truth is that both have repeatedly went big **** with one another, and it's time to move on and think about what's the best next step for all involved.

                      I think Mayweather may not have been on the top of Mosley's priority list in the earlier part of the year because of Pacquiao like Jake claims, but why keep pursuing a guy if he won't entertain the thought of fighting you?

                      Mosley tried to get a fight with Floyd after his victory over Collazo, and I want the writer of this article to try to prove me wrong
                      This is where I hold Golden Boy accountable, hence my "Sham(ing) Shane" headline. Shane has played company man all along, only for Golden Boy to rarely if ever do right by him. They made him look ****** in rejecting a Floyd fight way back when, for the sake of allowing Floyd-DLH to happen. And he looked equally as foolish in stepping aside for the sake of allowing GBP to pursue, sign and shove down our throats Floyd-JMM.

                      And yes Shane had his eye on the winner of Floyd-DLH (specifically Floyd). And once again, Golden Boy played ball with Floyd at Shane's expense, offering up Hatton. GBP and Shane lucked out when Margartio lost to Williams, thus momentarily leaving Cotto without a dance partner, just long enough for Arum and Schaefer (who had just kissed and made up if I have my timeline correct) to add this fight to their Reunited tour.

                      I like a lot of Jake's pieces though. And at least Mosley was willing to go all the way down to 140 to fight Pacquiao. Mayweather's sorry ass didn't even bother to make weight.
                      I seriously question if Shane could've made 140, and thought it only further played to his desperation. But I will say that yes, whatever the contracted weight would've been, Shane would've made an honest effort to make it, unlike Floyd in this fight, which really made this event all the more meaningless from any other perspective than that of a bank heist.

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