Ramirez was even worse than I thought

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  • Roadblock
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    #21
    Originally posted by lopetego

    It was either Jesse ¨never-was¨ Hart or a washed up Abraham 3 fights aways from retirement

    padded af resume
    Its not padded its just a LH resume today and today the depth of talent is not there.

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    • eco1
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      #22
      Originally posted by lopetego
      This is what happens when you put a hypejob with a padded record against an elite fighter




      Canelo did much better than Ramirez

      at least he made Bivol back down at times and tried to win

      Bivol didn't even break a sweat with Zurdo
      Yeap, Canelo won a round and a half, the round and a half Bivol decided to rest.

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      • rickJen
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        #23
        Ramirez fought nervous in this fight, almost seem like
        he's star struck and he wants to worship the guy in front of him.

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        • rickJen
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          #24
          I have acknowledged Bivol's skill long before everyone else did,
          so there's no need to repeat them here.

          Originally posted by genrick
          I have little interest in this division. I don't know why.
          From what I've been seeing, Bivol would make Beterbiev look average.
          It's possible Bivol would KHTFO. Just wondering why this fight hasn't happened yet.
          Who is ducking who? I don't think it's Bivol.


          Originally posted by genrick
          Joe Smith is telling the truth.
          Bivol would smash Beterbiev like a potato.

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          • Roadblock
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            #25
            Originally posted by genrick
            Ramirez fought nervous in this fight, almost seem like
            he's star struck and he wants to worship the guy in front of him.
            When you're checked every time you make a move it quickly shuts you down, Floyd made a career of it against great fighters. There is nothing more confronting than being beaten to the punch every time, speed is a killer in boxing.

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            • Citizen Koba
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              #26
              Originally posted by MulaKO
              That’s what happens when you fight rubbish opponents your whole career
              Let’s be honest , Zurdo’s best opponent was Jesse fughin Hart
              What does that tell you
              I'd rate Vlasov over Hart personally, although Zurdo should have lost that one too.

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                #27
                Originally posted by lopetego

                It was either Jesse ¨never-was¨ Hart or a washed up Abraham 3 fights aways from retirement

                padded af resume
                Maxim Vlasov was better than either at the time they fought IMO, Zurdo was definitely given the benefit of the doubt there as he was against Hart.

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                • Punch on Tap
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                  #28
                  This is why the eye test rankings don’t work. You can’t base a fighter off of how they look when fighting guys they are supposed to beat.

                  Boxing is mostly mental. The eye test is only valid once a fighter faces an opponent in which the general boxing community believes they could lose to their opponent. Until then, it’s purely subjective and fabricated by imagination.

                  Zurdo was carried well most of his career but tonight he looked like he was a 10-0 fighter stepping up in competition. Instead of this 44-0 monster they tried to sell him as.


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                  • jbdmusic
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                    #29
                    Just a bum who fought other bums and Golden Boy thought he could beat a champion but a huge mistake

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Roadblock

                      He is the same level not the same speed and he pushes punches which means there is no way for him to time Bivol, he just couldn't deal with the hand/foot speed, its not rocket science, without the timing he had one-way he could pull it of and that was to back him up hard and let his hands go, he felt Bivols right hand, and that ended that.

                      Bivol is a LH Andrade, very good boxers I don't knock them as they always hard to beat but they are nothing special at all.
                      So you say Andrade is also elite and he would make canelo look average?

                      Wow, mate, but, well, it must be true.​

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