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  • DLT
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    #1

    All JMM Fans Answer These Questions For Me!

    No matter what you think about the fight, answer these questions in a real way.

    Note that I want to start off every question by saying "size aside" because we all know about the size thing. I want to really know the answer to these questions because alot of people were claiming this before the fight, even writers, and even people who thought Floyd would kill JMM. Again, this is not a hate thread. You may genuinely feel that way. Im asking because I havent seen the fight to tell myself. Most people had both these guys ranked far and away the best in the sport at all these catagories and alot of people thought JMM was better than Floyd at alot of them. Do you still beleive that?



    1- Do you still think JMM is more skillful

    2- Do you still think JMM is smarter

    3- Do you still think JMM is better techniqaly

    4- Do you still think JMM is more well rounded or complete

    5- Do you still think JMM is "P4P" better, would beat Floyd if they fought at LW, or would beat Floyd if they were the same size

    6- Do you still think JMM is better at making adjustments

    7- Do you flat out still think that if all things were even, JMM would be a better fighter then Floyd, period
  • ßringer
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    #2
    We've already established the answers to all of this ; No, no, no, no, no, no, and no.

    Floyd is just better than Marquez.

    But that doesn't change the fact that it was a ***** move to pick on a Lightweight, and that Marquez would've made a better account of himself at a lower weight.

    /Thread.

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #3
      Would you say the same for Pavlik vs Hopkins?

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      • The Noose
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        #4
        Originally posted by DLT
        No matter what you think about the fight, answer these questions in a real way.

        Note that I want to start off every question by saying "size aside" because we all know about the size thing. I want to really know the answer to these questions because alot of people were claiming this before the fight, even writers, and even people who thought Floyd would kill JMM. Again, this is not a hate thread. You may genuinely feel that way. Im asking because I havent seen the fight to tell myself. Most people had both these guys ranked far and away the best in the sport at all these catagories and alot of people thought JMM was better than Floyd at alot of them. Do you still beleive that?



        1- Do you still think JMM is more skillful

        2- Do you still think JMM is smarter

        3- Do you still think JMM is better techniqaly

        4- Do you still think JMM is more well rounded or complete

        5- Do you still think JMM is "P4P" better, would beat Floyd if they fought at LW, or would beat Floyd if they were the same size

        6- Do you still think JMM is better at making adjustments

        7- Do you flat out still think that if all things were even, JMM would be a better fighter then Floyd, period
        Before the fight i only heard everyone saying Floyd was better at everything.

        Floyds style and skill means he doesnt usually have to make adjustments. He gets his opponents to fight his fight.
        He doesnt need to brawl on the inside because he never gets in that situation.

        And no for everything else.

        The main question about that matchup was 'Is Floyd a little rusty, and if JMM gives a miraculous performance can he give Floyd trouble?'

        Another question surrounded whether Floyd could walk through JMM and KO him.

        The fight went as most people thought it would.

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        • Kevin Jesus
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          #5
          Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
          Would you say the same for Pavlik vs Hopkins?
          Hopkins is a flat out better fighter than Pavlik and would beat him at 160-175 any day and any age.

          But would you add the same "Hopkins made abitch move" line to Hopkins win over Pavlik?

          You admit that Mayweather is better than Marquez at any weight but you say it's a ***** move, what he did. Would you treat every fighter fairly, even your own favorite, and apply the same on him as the fighters you dislike...if he does the same thing they did once?

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          • ßringer
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            #6
            Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
            Would you say the same for Pavlik vs Hopkins?
            Not exactly, but somewhat ; "Team Pavlik" wanted Bernard, not the other way around.

            Say what you want about "Marquez called out Floyd!" all you want but we all know he was only half serious with that ; he was merely doing it to get digs in on Manny because Freddie Roach was calling Floyd out as well.

            And while the weight probably effected Pavlik's performance, he was roughly the same size as Bernard even in the ring on fight night.

            Whereas Marquez looked like Floyd's adopted Mexican child.

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            • pistol whip
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              #7
              I'd answer no to all your questions but let me ask you a question.

              Has Floyd fought the best fighters in his weight class like Juan has?

              Let me answer that with an infatic no he hasn't.

              I give floyd all the credit in the world for outclassing a Hall of fame fighter but I wont give him the kind of credit he wants to be given because Hall of famer or not he was still fighting a blown up lightweight that was fighting 3 divisions higher than he should have.

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              • Kevin Jesus
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                #8
                Originally posted by The_Bringer
                Not exactly, but somewhat ; "Team Pavlik" wanted Bernard, not the other way around.

                Say what you want about "Marquez called out Floyd!" all you want but we all know he was only half serious with that ; he was merely doing it to get digs in on Manny because Freddie Roach was calling Floyd out as well.

                And while the weight probably effected Pavlik's performance, he was roughly the same size as Bernard even in the ring on fight night.

                Whereas Marquez looked like Floyd's adopted Mexican child.

                You're a smart poster, i've read many of your posts before.

                With that said i would like to ask you a question about Mayweather vs Marquez. With your boxing knowledge, do you believe that Marquez was underdog against Floyd because of the weight class or do you think that people knew that because of Floyd's skills there was no way that Marquez could overcome the weight class, e.g. Hopkins vs Tarver, where Hopkins moved up more than what Marquez(9 pounds) moved up(Hopkins 15pounds) and still beat Tarver(the much bigger, taller, man) with his skills?

                And do you think that Pavlik was favorite to beat Hopkins cause of sheer size and power? I myself thought Hopkisn would outbox Pavlik.

                What are your thoughts?
                Last edited by Kevin Jesus; 09-22-2009, 04:13 PM. Reason: I put over instead of "Overcome" by mistake

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                • Dionyseus
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                  #9
                  Mayweather's 5 inch arm reach advantage and his incredible speed and reflexes proved to be too much for JMM. If JMM was the same weight and same height and same length of arms he would still have trouble with Mayweather's speed, although he would have certainly done better than what he did that night.

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                    #10
                    Who are these "alot of people"? Can you post the examples? you said "alot" so I'm expecting polls show significant evidence, not just 3-4 JMM fans.

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