Comments Thread For: Algieri on Benn's Positive Test: Not Surprised, I Heard Rumors He Wasn't a Clean Fighter

[BodyBagz]

List of deaths due to injuries sustained in boxing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ined_in_boxing

A list of boxers who wished they fought a roider

[tokon]

Mentally it can help a boxer feel as if he's in his best fighting condition.
There is no proof great conditioning alone is an advantage.

Now it's your turn....

Better or worse -
Hopeless mismatches or one guy is roided.

Hahaha, very good.

Except, for clarity, yours is a yes or no; you either believe performance enhancing drugs (the clue is in what they're "titled") offer an advantage or you don't. It doesn't matter what that advantage is, if it's via prohibited drugs it's an unfair one.

I'm not quite understanding how your own question relates to Benn taking ped's? But, for what it's worth, neither hopeless mismatches or roided up fighters are good - there is no better it worse.

However, we're going nowhere with this as our opinions regarding Peds in boxing obviously differ so I'm out from here on.

Thanks.

[BodyBagz]

So, cutting to the chase, you really are saying that taking performance enhancing drugs offers no advantages in terms of performance?

Mentally it can help a boxer feel as if he's in his best fighting condition.
There is no proof great conditioning alone is an advantage.

Now it's your turn....

Better or worse -
Hopeless mismatches or one guy is roided.

[tokon]

Let's walk through this.....

One guy trains super duper hard.
Has an insane physique
No roids/peds.
His power is true game changer.

His opponent is a fat slob.

Fat slob wins.....by KO.
And KO is not his go to way of winning.
Happened at least a few times recently.

Hmmm....

How about this scenario.....

Again, you have a guy who is all in 100000%
Training camp immortal.
Gets KO'd in rd 1 by a pillow puncher....

I can give you logical hypotheticals but I;m hoping you get the picture.

So yeah. ''really''

Added bonus

What's worse -
A natural boxer bashing on a no hoper or fighting a roider

So, cutting to the chase, you really are saying that taking performance enhancing drugs offers no advantages in terms of performance?

[Leicesterage]

No one can point to a fight where a ''cheater'' hurt his opponent beyond the fight.

[BodyBagz]

Are you really questioning whether a drug that helps in training provides an advantage that they wouldn't have otherwise?!

Really??!

Let's walk through this.....

One guy trains super duper hard.
Has an insane physique
No roids/peds.
His power is true game changer.

His opponent is a fat slob.

Fat slob wins.....by KO.
And KO is not his go to way of winning.
Happened at least a few times recently.

Hmmm....

How about this scenario.....

Again, you have a guy who is all in 100000%
Training camp immortal.
Gets KO'd in rd 1 by a pillow puncher....

I can give you logical hypotheticals but I;m hoping you get the picture.

So yeah. ''really''

Added bonus

What's worse -
A natural boxer bashing on a no hoper or fighting a roider

[tokon]

r.

Science says roids help in training.
Whether or not that's an advantage is if the opponent isn't training hard himself ???

Are you really questioning whether a drug that helps in training provides an advantage that they wouldn't have otherwise?!

Really??!

[BodyBagz]

Not just fighters but athletes from all sports.

Lance,Mark McGwire,Barry Bonds,Sosa,Carl Lewis,Marion Jones....the list goes on and on and on. Like you said,if they didn't give an athlete an an advantage then why take them at all?! The science is there that they do lol.Look how many HR records were broken when Sosa n Big Mac were juicing,Lance etc.To suggest peds don't give an athlete an unfair advantage is baffling and asinine.

Hard to compare other sports with boxing.
No bicycles, teammates or other equipment (or weather conditions) added to the performance.

If the worst that happens when a boxer takes roids or PEDs is that fighter entering the ring in his best possible condition, what's the harm ?
No one can point to a fight where a ''cheater'' hurt his opponent beyond the fight.
Boxers who take roids are not dying or ending up in the ER either.

Science says roids help in training.
Whether or not that's an advantage is if the opponent isn't training hard himself ???

[BodyBagz]

Well the fighters obviously do, otherwise they wouldn't be cheating.

Forget what they think.
Almost all of them think they are the best.

What do RESULTS say ?!?!?

[Sctrojan]

Well the fighters obviously do, otherwise they wouldn't be cheating.

Not just fighters but athletes from all sports.

Lance,Mark McGwire,Barry Bonds,Sosa,Carl Lewis,Marion Jones....the list goes on and on and on. Like you said,if they didn't give an athlete an an advantage then why take them at all?! The science is there that they do lol.Look how many HR records were broken when Sosa n Big Mac were juicing,Lance etc.To suggest peds don't give an athlete an unfair advantage is baffling and asinine.