Even Michael Rosenthal can't explain why Mosley is ranked ahead of Hopkins...

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  • warp1432
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    Even Michael Rosenthal can't explain why Mosley is ranked ahead of Hopkins...

    So I emailed him this, just for the hell of it:
    Dear Ring Editor,

    I'm not one to criticize the ring's ratings normally. Hell, I don't even care about the pound for pound list most of the time, but when I saw Shane Mosley jump Bernard Hopkins and Juan Manuel Marquez for absolutely no reason at all, something sparked off. It seems like absolute Golden Boy Promotion bias to be honest. There is no reason why you can justify having Shane Mosley over Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins has not fought since October of 2008, but at least wait the full year before doing the jump.

    Even then, Mosley has not fought since January, so it's not like he did anything of late to warrant the move up. Hopkins beating Pavlik is a better win then Mosley beating Margarito anyway. Mosley has done nothing to warrant the change and when Hopkins next fights, Mosley will be fighting around the same time. So it's not like Hopkins is having a major lapse of inactivity. He is close to having a fight scheduled for January. Him not fighting, shouldn't warrant Mosley going ahead of him.

    Besides, Bernard Hopkins is a better quality fighter then Shane Mosley anyway. Better resume, better defense, better right hand, and he's just been better of late. Also causing Juan Manuel Marquez to decrease to 5 is iffy too. I realize he just got dominated, but it wasn't his weight class.

    The only reason why I can come up with Shane Mosley jumping Bernard Hopkins is to hype a Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley match up, something that Golden Boy Promotions wants very badly. What better way to hype it is to use the ratings .The ring has done a pretty good job of being balanced and using fair ratings, so I don't like to believe this is GBP, but it seems kind of logical that it is. Whatever the case, the move in ratings was terrible and unwarranted.

    Please fix this or at least address this letter.


    Sincerely,

    Matt Paras
    and I get this in return:

    matt. it's kind of hard to argue with what you have to say, although i think mosley is better than hopkins. the ratings are compiled by an editorial board at the magazine; i have input but i work for the website. so i can't explain it. email nigel collins, the magazine editor: ncollins@sepublications.com. thanks, michael rosenthal
    Now I'm sending it to Nigel Collins, hoping to get an answer. Collins has answered me before, but I don't think he will on this subject.
  • japrestone
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    #2
    get to the bottom of this warp....make us proud!!

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    • savorduhflavor
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      #3
      While you're at it, ask them how in gods name they put Mayweather at number 2 at WW after coming out of retirement to fight a lightweight. How does that justify him hopping a guy who holds a head to head win over the number 1, and just beat the previous number 3.

      That's as inexplicable as Mosley jumping Hopkins.

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      • JudeTheObscure
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        I give you immense credit- for taking initiative to ask about this! The once undisputed and reliable Ring rankings finally become corrupt- after a promotion purchases it. Very sad.

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        • flyest1
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          I doubt Hop really cares these days. He wants Shane to get that fight with Mosley. They seem to be getting really close now.

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          • japrestone
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            Originally posted by flyest1
            I doubt Hop really cares these days. He wants Shane to get that fight with Mosley. They seem to be getting really close now.
            Why would he want his friend to fight himself?

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            • flyest1
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              #7
              Originally posted by japrestone
              Why would he want his friend to fight himself?
              Lol, I hate typing on my phone. Honestly I believe Hop is about to give it up my man. I don't see anything else out there to prove

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              • chinoy
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                #8
                this is the start of a Mosley PBF hype....
                by the Golden Boy machinery

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                • Iceta
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                  Mosley's win over Margarito was better than B-Hop's win over Pavlik because Pavlik moved up in weight. And do people forget about the loss that Hopkins suffered against Calzaghe? It was close, but he lost nontheless. I scored both the Mosley-Cotto and Hopkins-Calzaghe fights to Mosley and Hopkins respectively. But I thought that Mosley had a stronger case against Cotto even though he didn't complain about the decision like Hopkins did with Calzaghe.

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                  • warp1432
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                    Originally posted by Iceta
                    Mosley's win over Margarito was better than B-Hop's win over Pavlik because Pavlik moved up in weight. And do people forget about the loss that Hopkins suffered against Calzaghe? It was close, but he lost nontheless. I scored both the Mosley-Cotto and Hopkins-Calzaghe fights to Mosley and Hopkins respectively. But I thought that Mosley had a stronger case against Cotto even though he didn't complain about the decision like Hopkins did with Calzaghe.
                    Cotto clearly beat Mosley imo.

                    And Pavlik is a better fighter then Margarito was. Besides he had the frame, height, and size to go up in weight. He just lost to the better fighter.

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