Comments Thread For: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. McWilliams Arroyo Added To Estrada-Chocolatito Card

[1hourRun]

Mostly Euro bums with the exception of Lomachenko.

All bums! Everyone can see it but that Karen.

[Regge]

I really hope Arroyo wins this one

Why? Can't cheer for anyone named Mcjoe or mcwilliams lol wtf were his parents thinking.

Martinez was beating him the first go around until McCurry quit. El Rey will do a number on him again.

[Kannabis Kid]

What is a eurobum? I saw about 9 world champions or ex world champions on the list. Does that make them world bums?

Awww looks like someone got sad at my comment. I said mostly. The only two aside from Loma that deserve credit are the 2 Scottish champions that needed home cooking to keep their titles.

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Awww looks like someone got sad at my comment. I said mostly. The only two aside from Loma that deserve credit are the 2 Scottish champions that needed home cooking to keep their titles.

There wasn't any emotion in my comment, not sure how you got sad from it. Just wanted to know your point of view. Why don't you give the others any credit?

[Kannabis Kid]

There wasn't any emotion in my comment, not sure how you got sad from it. Just wanted to know your point of view. Why don't you give the others any credit?

Liam Smith - Who did he beat for his world title? He's a game fighter but he's nothing special
Terry Flanagan - Same, Zepeda had an injured shoulder, a win is a win but aside from that he didn't fair to well against the elite after that.
Terri Harper - She looked good this past fight I'll give her that but she isn't going to hold that title long.
Leigh Wood - Paper title, Paper chin
Sunny Edwards - He's skilled but he hasn't really fought anyone aside from an old Mthalane, if he beats Alvarado impressively I will give him props.
Jason Cunningham - Who? Before Tete starched him I had never seen him. I don't keep up with all domestic level fighters from the UK.
Katie and Josh Taylor - Katie is horrible to watch jumping in head first, she has a good amateur background but she should've lost to Serrano and she's a 140 lber getting rocked by 126's.
Josh is good I'm not going to say he isn't, but it seems he lives an undisciplined life and I think that is going to take a toll in the long term. I wanna see who he beats at 147 before saying he will be a great.
Savannah Marshall - Unproven in the pros. Has power I'll give her that.
Josh Warrington - Headbutt king
Ricky Burns - Actually a fan but he did benefit from a robbery on more than one occasion for me. He is a skilled fighter not much power but he was tough and fought anyone and had a good attitude I can respect that.
Isaac Lowe - lmao
Bakhram Murtazaliev - Unproven in pros.

[BigZ44]

I don't expect Martinez to make it to the ring, but I plan on being at this show

[just the facts]

I don't expect Martinez to make it to the ring, but I plan on being at this show

Why wouldn’t Martinez make it to the ring?

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Liam Smith - Who did he beat for his world title? He's a game fighter but he's nothing special
Terry Flanagan - Same, Zepeda had an injured shoulder, a win is a win but aside from that he didn't fair to well against the elite after that.
Terri Harper - She looked good this past fight I'll give her that but she isn't going to hold that title long.
Leigh Wood - Paper title, Paper chin
Sunny Edwards - He's skilled but he hasn't really fought anyone aside from an old Mthalane, if he beats Alvarado impressively I will give him props.
Jason Cunningham - Who? Before Tete starched him I had never seen him. I don't keep up with all domestic level fighters from the UK.
Katie and Josh Taylor - Katie is horrible to watch jumping in head first, she has a good amateur background but she should've lost to Serrano and she's a 140 lber getting rocked by 126's.
Josh is good I'm not going to say he isn't, but it seems he lives an undisciplined life and I think that is going to take a toll in the long term. I wanna see who he beats at 147 before saying he will be a great.
Savannah Marshall - Unproven in the pros. Has power I'll give her that.
Josh Warrington - Headbutt king
Ricky Burns - Actually a fan but he did benefit from a robbery on more than one occasion for me. He is a skilled fighter not much power but he was tough and fought anyone and had a good attitude I can respect that.
Isaac Lowe - lmao
Bakhram Murtazaliev - Unproven in pros.

That's fair enough, you gave your points. I didn't even know Issac Lowe, Smithy, Cunningham and Flannagan held world titles, thought they held international titles at best. Had no idea who Bakhram was either. Sounds like your main gripe with most of them is the level of opposition they've fought, and Warrington fighting dirty. Underatandable. This isn't just a euro thing. Plenty of Americans and all over the world fighters fight low level opposition, get positioned into an easier world title fight, and wait around fighting lower level guys. Caleb Plant, Jermall Charlo, Benavidez, Andrade, off the top of my head. Haven't really fought high level opponents either but still rated highly. So it's not just a European thing, it's worldwide.

[BigZ44]

Why wouldn’t Martinez make it to the ring?

Something will happen, miss weight, get sick, test positive, suffer an injury in camp. Dude has become very unreliable, so I'm not holding my breath on this fight actually happening

[Kannabis Kid]

That's fair enough, you gave your points. I didn't even know Issac Lowe, Smithy, Cunningham and Flannagan held world titles, thought they held international titles at best. Had no idea who Bakhram was either. Sounds like your main gripe with most of them is the level of opposition they've fought, and Warrington fighting dirty. Underatandable. This isn't just a euro thing. Plenty of Americans and all over the world fighters fight low level opposition, get positioned into an easier world title fight, and wait around fighting lower level guys. Caleb Plant, Jermall Charlo, Benavidez, Andrade, off the top of my head. Haven't really fought high level opponents either but still rated highly. So it's not just a European thing, it's worldwide.

Fair enough, and believe me I know Charlo, Andrade and Benavidez all have garbage resumes. I've stated that on here many times lol.