Comments Thread For: The Juggernaut Rolls On: Weekend Afterthoughts

[hugh grant]

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Good scrap but Joyce is too slow. Wilder will catch him with his signature one-two and blast him into oblivion.
If I was on Joyce’s team, I’d push for an AJ fight - more money to be made and perhaps a winnable fight against a reduced-to-gate keeper-status AJ

Joyce could take ddd punches so id think joyce could take deontays. Fury could take wilders, so I'd say joyce could also. Not sure wilder can take joyce onslaught?

[Rockybigblower]

Joyce could take ddd punches so id think joyce could take deontays. Fury could take wilders, so I'd say joyce could also. Not sure wilder can take joyce onslaught?

You were on a roll. Then you elaborated which opens you up to scrutiny. A wise man once told me...state the facts...nothing more. So now the scrutiny. You are assuming that DDD hits as hard as Wilder....seems unlikely but either way...speculation. Fury got dropped 5 or six times in their 3 bouts...so taking Wilders shots...no. Good recovery powers...yes. Joyce hasnt had his recovery power tested yet...so speculative wether he could recover from a clean Wilder shot. Proven...Wilder got beaten by Fury...but he went to hell and back before it happened...he can take an onslaught and meet it head on. Joyce is a slugger...and a slow one at that. Hes not a Calzaghe type combination puncher....he just thuds. Wilder has the counterpunch speed to test him all night. It wont be a Stiverne type stoppage...but Joyce will fall and if his chin is as they say...he'll get busted up a while before somebody finally yells "Timber".

[Rockybigblower]

Joyce vs wilder!!

I believe it could happen if Wilder beats Helenius....but for money only. Joyce is solid but still way to green. Its unfortunate that he got here way too late...but at 37 his chances at a title run are slim to zero. His only options are to fight names for money. The first was Parker. Then theres AJ...Wilder....Ruiz....Martin. Wilder might likely be the last. It could be Martin or Ruiz...one a win and one a maybe. Then AJ...and finally Wilder.

[theface07]

I think they'll now wait for a shot at the WBO belt (and take lower risk fights). The WBO is now third in the queue because Usyk was the most recent challenger. I think the IBF/Hrgovic is next, and the WBA is second.

I think you're right about that and I suppose what's fair is fair but Hrgovic has no chance against Usyk. It's arguable that he didn't even deserve to beat Chang who fights like he's underwater. He won't be able to hit Usyk with anything clean. Sure everyone has a chance, especially at heavyweight but I'm going to go out on a limb and say Hrgovic will be hitting air all night if he fights Usyk. The "regular" WBA world champion is Dubois who may not have the style to beat Usyk either but at least he has a puncher's chance. In all honesty though, Dubois needs more seasoning and time with McGuigan to have much of a shot at beating Usyk and I'm a big fan of Dubois. I don't think Usyk has any interest in fighting either Hrgovic or Dubois. He wants Fury, which isn't happening next since he's looking to take a break and fight in the new year. Joyce would be the best option outside of Fury but I don't know if Usyk is very interested in that matchup either although if he wants to keep his 3 titles, he'll have to honor his mandatories if the fight with Fury doesn't happen.

[theface07]

You were on a roll. Then you elaborated which opens you up to scrutiny. A wise man once told me...state the facts...nothing more. So now the scrutiny. You are assuming that DDD hits as hard as Wilder....seems unlikely but either way...speculation. Fury got dropped 5 or six times in their 3 bouts...so taking Wilders shots...no. Good recovery powers...yes. Joyce hasnt had his recovery power tested yet...so speculative wether he could recover from a clean Wilder shot. Proven...Wilder got beaten by Fury...but he went to hell and back before it happened...he can take an onslaught and meet it head on. Joyce is a slugger...and a slow one at that. Hes not a Calzaghe type combination puncher....he just thuds. Wilder has the counterpunch speed to test him all night. It wont be a Stiverne type stoppage...but Joyce will fall and if his chin is as they say...he'll get busted up a while before somebody finally yells "Timber".

Are you not being a bit hypocritical by saying Joyce will fall and get KO'd by Wilder? Is this not also speculation? You have no idea if Joyce can take Wilder's shots. Until it actually happens it's open for debate. My guess is that Joyce will take Wilder's punches and land something big which will drop Wilder, whose stability and ability to take a big shot isn't great given the skinny legs he has. Sure he is tough, given he got up numerous times against Fury until he was exhausted and literally out on his feet but who knows, maybe Wilder could land one of his windmills and take Joyce out. It's yet to be seen. I'm not going to say either outcome is a given. A wise man once said, don't accuse others of the same thing you yourself are guilty of. Actually I just made that up but it seems particularly relevant in this instance.

[Rockybigblower]

Are you not being a bit hypocritical by saying Joyce will fall and get KO'd by Wilder? Is this not also speculation? You have no idea if Joyce can take Wilder's shots. Until it actually happens it's open for debate. My guess is that Joyce will take Wilder's punches and land something big which will drop Wilder, whose stability and ability to take a big shot isn't great given the skinny legs he has. Sure he is tough, given he got up numerous times against Fury until he was exhausted and literally out on his feet but who knows, maybe Wilder could land one of his windmills and take Joyce out. It's yet to be seen. I'm not going to say either outcome is a given. A wise man once said, don't accuse others of the same thing you yourself are guilty of. Actually I just made that up but it seems particularly relevant in this instance.

If you read what i said...you would acknowledge that i never said Wilder who one punch stop him. I said Wilder would counter his slow hands all night....and that if Joyces chin is as strong as people believe...that he would get busted up along the way. Sure...he might take some...but i doubt if anybody takes half a dozen or more without cracking.