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  • BodyBagz
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    #51
    Originally posted by Babadoux

    No, but I rarely remember the "names" of the people I interact with here. I don't usually remember who said what so I wouldn't be able to know/remember enough to label them.
    Got it....if you were to remember and interact with said fight fan, how would you score (my initial question) ?

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      #52
      Originally posted by BodyBagz
      Who here would decline A side status if they felt they had the upper hand, bargaining wise ?!?!?!?
      I ask them tough questions

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      • Silence
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        #53
        Originally posted by BodyBagz

        That's right.....those fights, especially the Pavlik fight, were all PBF/May's fault for not happening.
        BTW, maybe DLH is the only ATG'ish guy you listed.
        Are those other names supposed to be scary ?
        Yes, Morales and Barrera are HoF. Bradley was technical boxer who is similar to Judah. Cotto is definitely HoF.

        Btw despite I don't like him, I never disrespected his skills and he is arguably H2H goat. I rank him in my top 10 ATG. But, he got tarnishes in his career.

        Originally posted by Silence
        1- Sugar Ray Robinson
        2- Harry Greb
        3- Henry Armstrong
        4- Sam Langford
        5- Ezzard Charles
        6- Roberto Duran
        7- Manny Pacquiao

        8- Bob Fitzsimmons
        9- Sugar Ray Leonard
        10- Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        11- Muhammad Ali
        12- Canelo Alvarez
        13- Roy Jones Jr.
        14- Archie Moore
        15- Willie Pep
        16- Sandy Saddler
        17- Benny Leonard
        18- Joe Gans
        19- Tommy Hearns
        20- Joe Louis

        Honorable Mentions: Kid Chocolate, Marvin Hagler, Carlos Monzon, Bernard Hopkins, Alexis Argüello, Lennox Lewis, Eder Jofre.

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        • BodyBagz
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          #54
          Originally posted by Silence

          Yes, Morales and Barrera are HoF. Bradley was technical boxer who is similar to Judah. Cotto is definitely HoF.

          Btw despite I don't like him, I never disrespected his skills and he is arguably H2H goat. I rank him in my top 10 ATG. But, he got tarnishes in his career.
          HOFers who were not that hard to beat, if you are of a certain level.
          Erik, Marco....did they beat any ''prime'' HOFer/ATG ?
          Bradley is a softer hitting May wannabe.
          Again, all blame falls on him
          Emotions (AKA, likability) is why Pac's weak shlt is forgiven (Pac > May )

          You saw Langford era guys fight ?
          How many decent opponents did he beat ?
          IDGAF about him fighting and beating some goofy assed HWs
          Boxing back in those days were just 2 street bums going at it where one will be a little bit better than the other.
          I mean, this HW era we are in is a pure slopfest but boxing back then really set the sloppy standard through the roof.

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          • Babadoux
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            #55
            Originally posted by BodyBagz

            Got it....if you were to remember and interact with said fight fan, how would you score (my initial question) ?
            I think the Floyd and Pac comparisons aren't always fair (as in apples to apples), however, the people you're describing (based on the examples provided) sound like Floyd haters and probably Pacquiao hard-core fans.

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              #56
              As to this topic, every fight has an ''A'' side.
              Those A siders are usually unable to sustain that tag.
              Only the rare fighter with sustained greatness can hold onto that tag.

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              • Silence
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                #57
                Originally posted by BodyBagz

                HOFers who were not that hard to beat, if you are of a certain level.
                Erik, Marco....did they beat any ''prime'' HOFer/ATG ?
                Bradley is a softer hitting May wannabe.
                Again, all blame falls on him
                Emotions (AKA, likability) is why Pac's weak shlt is forgiven (Pac > May )

                You saw Langford era guys fight ?
                How many decent opponents did he beat ?
                IDGAF about him fighting and beating some goofy assed HWs
                Boxing back in those days were just 2 street bums going at it where one will be a little bit better than the other.
                I mean, this HW era we are in is a pure slopfest but boxing back then really set the sloppy standard through the roof.
                My rank ain't based on skillz. Langford went from LW to HW which is absurd feat. He fought every single fighter in his era. Prime or post prime, he didn't care.

                Floyd got skillz but he got tarnishes too.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Babadoux

                  I think the Floyd and Pac comparisons aren't always fair (as in apples to apples), however, the people you're describing (based on the examples provided) sound like Floyd haters and probably Pacquiao hard-core fans.
                  Even though I'm sarcastic, I'm usually honest.
                  Those are accurate double standards that are well known and documented.
                  Hypocritical ''fight'' fans don't GAF about fairness.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Silence

                    My rank ain't based on skillz. Langford went from LW to HW which is absurd feat. He fought every single fighter in his era. Prime or post prime, he didn't care.

                    Floyd got skillz but he got tarnishes too.
                    You reaching and grabbing at clouds
                    Last edited by BodyBagz; 09-24-2022, 01:53 PM.

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                    • elfag
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                      #60
                      "60/40 and i whoop your ass" Aside Bside has been going on for like atleast 20 years. Bhop and RJJ refused to rematch for 17 years until they were both shot because they both claimed A side.

                      usually once both guys are shot they agree and cash out. Like Khan-brook that was going on for 10+ years

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