Comments Thread For: Hearn on Joshua-Fury Talks: Contract Was All Over the Place; Gut Feeling is Fury Fights Charr

[Bronx2245]

Wilder will lose badly to Usyk imop.

The rest you wrote is sort of true but Wilder needs 2 winnable fights ,he’s getting one soon , and after that ? I’d be careful,if I’m his manager I set up up another guy who’s easily hit . Then see who’s there in the field.

I think, initially, it was foing to be Wilder vs. Helenius, then Wilder vs. Ruiz, because we all assumed Fury vs. Usyk would happen! Now all that as changed! Wilder, if he beats Helenius, has to accept Usyk's challenge!

[juggernaut666]

I haven't seen that from anywhere besides Eddie Hearn! Hearn also said Spence vs. Crawford wouldn't happen! He's also hoping Tank vs. Garcia doesn't happen! I'm not saying Fury did not make a deal, I just need to see it from someone besides Eddie Hearn! What I do believe is that Usyk was ready to fight him in December! Fury definitely ducking Usyk! I hope Wilder accepts the challenge from Usyk!

Wilder will lose badly to Usyk imop.

The rest you wrote is sort of true but Wilder needs 2 winnable fights ,he’s getting one soon , and after that ? I’d be careful,if I’m his manager I set up up another guy who’s easily hit . Then see who’s there in the field.

[Bronx2245]

The deal and agreement has gone further then team Fury anticipated ,it’s now phase two which is keep making Hearn send back the contract with little communication just enough to get Fury to say he’s waited long enough .

I hope Warren actually wants the fight we know Arum doesn’t and Furys already made a deal with Charr behind the scenes which means he’s about to duck Joshua and Usyk for a February fight if he goes through with it . What a garbage champion already and he hasn’t even held the title for a minute .

I haven't seen that from anywhere besides Eddie Hearn! Hearn also said Spence vs. Crawford wouldn't happen! He's also hoping Tank vs. Garcia doesn't happen! I'm not saying Fury did not make a deal, I just need to see it from someone besides Eddie Hearn! What I do believe is that Usyk was ready to fight him in December! Fury definitely ducking Usyk! I hope Wilder accepts the challenge from Usyk!

[1hourRun]

I’ll laugh my ass off if it’s Kash Ali

You know, the best part of this fight is that Kash Ali likes to face plant himself as much as Tyson enjoys uppercutting his ugly mug ; so a wacky KO is guaranteed.

[champion4ever]

They did. But Fury couldn't. Wilder made sure of that.

Well tell 'em to sign it now asshole!

[davef]

If Tyson Fury wanted to fight Usyk 1000%? The instructions and path to make that fight was very clear.

Usyk wanted more time to make the fight. Which was understandable. It is unprecedented in modern day boxing, that a fighter who has just fought 12 rounds at elite level is than forced into a quick turn around fight.

If Fury wanted to fight Usyk, it would of been very simple for him to just negotiate a later date fight 'Very simple, but that never happened'.

Tyson Fury was retired apparently, then suddenly came out of retirement and was making demands. Fury can make demands with 99.9% of the other Heavyweights in the sport 'But he cannot play those same games with Usyk'.

1: Usyk is a more accomplished fighter than Fury in the sport of boxing. That is a 100% fact. Olympic Champion, Undisputed Cruiser-weight Champion, and current WBA, WBO, IBF & IBO World Heavyweight Champion.

2: Usyk has more Heavyweight title belts than Fury.

You do not make demands, or play games with a fighter with those kind of achievements.

People like throwing this statistic around 3 loses in 5, Joshua avenged his loss to Ruiz Junior so that enhances his resume. And his loses to Usyk, were not really that bad 'Joshua was competitive'.

He has just went 24 rounds at elite level, with one of boxing's pound for pound best fighters. I don't see this as a negative, there are positives as a pure competitor to take from that experience.

If Tyson Fury beats Anthony Joshua, it is his second or third best win. Although I would rank it above Kiltschko if he stops Joshua, on pure historical magnitude? I cannot really put his Wilder or any other win ever above the Kiltschko win 'Even if I think the actual fight was a underwhelming fight, and Kiltschko was for me not at his best'.

Note: As you know Fury has a style of being a champion, this is becoming clear now. He is not really taking on all comers. Joshua for example, to his own detriment has been the only Champion since the Kiltschko's and Wladimir Kiltschko who has taken on all comers.

A note on that last bit AJ hasn't fought wilder (don't care who is to blame for that as its another argument) where as Fury took him on after 3 years of eating kebabs drinking and sniffing coke and went on to demolish him he also beat wlad before in Germany where getting a decision vs a Saunderland fighter was nigh on impossible. He has the best 3 wins in the division imo

I don't disagree with a lot of your points and certainly Fury is a big fight fighter and looks like a slob vs lower opposition maybe it's a mental thing where he just doesnt care enough or get excited for lesser opposition

Hes sent AJ the contract and AJ is seemingly interested yet was the loser in that fight I understand Usyk has some fcked up stuff going on back home and misses his family but he could have fought in December but it wouldn't have been ideal but then neither was Fury going to germany ideal or fighting wilder after losing 100lbs in weight

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't think its irrelevant much like Floyds win vs Canelo over time has looked every better after what he went on to achieve.If people were ripping apart Fury's resume on here and Price was on it I can almost guarantee people would call it a bum win.

I don't think its Fury's fault at all he isn't fighting Usyk who ruled himself out! Fury would be stupid to not take an interim fight and then jump in the ring with Usyk next year and give a chance for himself to be rusty.

Fury beating Joshua as much as I want to see it really is against a fighter with 3 losses in 5 imagine any other champion on here taking a fight like that they would get slaughtered. I do agree Fury picks some terrible opponents between big fights I imagine we will be adding Charr to that list soon but its irrelevant if he goes on to fight Usyk

Fury is the best of a bang average HW division and its hardly murderers row once you scroll down past the top 5 or 6

If Tyson Fury wanted to fight Usyk 1000%? The instructions and path to make that fight was very clear.

Usyk wanted more time to make the fight. Which was understandable. It is unprecedented in modern day boxing, that a fighter who has just fought 12 rounds at elite level is than forced into a quick turn around fight.

If Fury wanted to fight Usyk, it would of been very simple for him to just negotiate a later date fight 'Very simple, but that never happened'.

Tyson Fury was retired apparently, then suddenly came out of retirement and was making demands. Fury can make demands with 99.9% of the other Heavyweights in the sport 'But he cannot play those same games with Usyk'.

1: Usyk is a more accomplished fighter than Fury in the sport of boxing. That is a 100% fact. Olympic Champion, Undisputed Cruiser-weight Champion, and current WBA, WBO, IBF & IBO World Heavyweight Champion.

2: Usyk has more Heavyweight title belts than Fury.

You do not make demands, or play games with a fighter with those kind of achievements.

People like throwing this statistic around 3 loses in 5, Joshua avenged his loss to Ruiz Junior so that enhances his resume. And his loses to Usyk, were not really that bad 'Joshua was competitive'.

He has just went 24 rounds at elite level, with one of boxing's pound for pound best fighters. I don't see this as a negative, there are positives as a pure competitor to take from that experience.

If Tyson Fury beats Anthony Joshua, it is his second or third best win. Although I would rank it above Kiltschko if he stops Joshua, on pure historical magnitude? I cannot really put his Wilder or any other win ever above the Kiltschko win 'Even if I think the actual fight was a underwhelming fight, and Kiltschko was for me not at his best'.

Note: As you know Fury has a style of being a champion, this is becoming clear now. He is not really taking on all comers. Joshua for example, to his own detriment has been the only Champion since the Kiltschko's and Wladimir Kiltschko who has taken on all comers.

[Rodtang]

Just tell Team Joshua to sign the fuckin' contract! Damn!

They did. But Fury couldn't. Wilder made sure of that.

[davef]

Is Tyson Fury fighting Usyk? No.

And it is not for certain he fights Joshua ether.

If Fury does not fight Joshua next. Joshua's next fight will be against a fighter who is more highly ranked.

It is just Fury's style mate. In-between big fights, he seems to like to fight fighters who are not world class.

If Tyson Fury was 1000% set on facing Usyk, he would of just done a deal for that fight. Usyk has not ducked Fury.

He gave him information that he cannot fight in December. If Fury wanted to face him, they could of negotiated more.

Your point about wins looking terrible over time, is irrelevant. It does not make sense. Fighters can only fight the best competition at whatever time they are competing. Price would been a big domestic fight, and good win. Fury was beyond price, when their was talks of them fighting 'It was only media talk, nothing major'.

I don't think its irrelevant much like Floyds win vs Canelo over time has looked every better after what he went on to achieve.If people were ripping apart Fury's resume on here and Price was on it I can almost guarantee people would call it a bum win.

I don't think its Fury's fault at all he isn't fighting Usyk who ruled himself out! Fury would be stupid to not take an interim fight and then jump in the ring with Usyk next year and give a chance for himself to be rusty.

Fury beating Joshua as much as I want to see it really is against a fighter with 3 losses in 5 imagine any other champion on here taking a fight like that they would get slaughtered. I do agree Fury picks some terrible opponents between big fights I imagine we will be adding Charr to that list soon but its irrelevant if he goes on to fight Usyk

Fury is the best of a bang average HW division and its hardly murderers row once you scroll down past the top 5 or 6

[Sctrojan]

Just tell Team Joshua to sign the fuckin' contract! Damn!

You didn't hold that same sentiment when Wilder was offered $120 Million by DAZN to fight Joshua doe.....