Comments Thread For: Hearn on Joshua-Fury Talks: Contract Was All Over the Place; Gut Feeling is Fury Fights Charr

[boxology]

i said in my earlier post fury now has that mayweather complex where he makes stipulations that are unreasonable because he feels he can especially with warren and arum supporting his wishes and not dictating to him, a position very few fighters find themselves in

did you just say usyk has done more than Fury at heavyweight? haha are you you insane LOL!! wtf is wrong with people on here? Fury has dethroned TWO champions read that again TWO champions one that hadn't lost for a decade and the other was undefeated and knocked out every other man hes ever faced and your telling me Usyk has done more at heavyweight by going life and death with chisora and beating AJ who already lost to Ruiz? I think you should worry about your own credibilty in your posts on here you must be trolling?

Wladimir was 39 yo washed up, slow, ready to retire and had already been defeated. And Fury never gave him the rematch. Wilder? LOL Wilder beat nobody of high calibre, NONE, ZERO! He won the first defense of the vacant WBC belt against a nobody and then kept the belt hostage fighting LOW TIER CALIBRE BUMS. Fury is SMOKE AND MIRROS!

[davef]

You really lost the plot here .

If anyone showed characteristics of being weary or tentative to take certain fights at certain times it’s Fury who was told he better up his game in the rematch by Peter because Wlad was going to bring the heat next time which right after that statement he fled and left for 3 years and probably would never come back had Joshua not swept the boxing world up because he thought no one was ever going to defeat Wlad again and go on to be a fan favorite, let’s not forget when Fury left he was disliked by most and couldn’t even handke being a champion right after he got the decision win ,funny how this forum likes to forget that bc nothings actually changed . Lol


If your really going to down play Usyk I can tell you now every credible post you’ve done on here will be a waste of time because he’s done more already then Fury has his entire time as a heavyweight in just 2 years time , including ruining Fury himself without laying a glove on him . It wasn’t Usyk that demanded the initial rematch either what are you guys on ? It’s like this forum lives in bizarro world most the time where everyone is backwards ? Lol

i said in my earlier post fury now has that mayweather complex where he makes stipulations that are unreasonable because he feels he can especially with warren and arum supporting his wishes and not dictating to him, a position very few fighters find themselves in

did you just say usyk has done more than Fury at heavyweight? haha are you you insane LOL!! wtf is wrong with people on here? Fury has dethroned TWO champions read that again TWO champions one that hadn't lost for a decade and the other was undefeated and knocked out every other man hes ever faced and your telling me Usyk has done more at heavyweight by going life and death with chisora and beating AJ who already lost to Ruiz? I think you should worry about your own credibilty in your posts on here you must be trolling?

[PRINCEKOOL]

Hearn just hates the fact he's not got a say in this .......Joshua is there with his begging basket and has little else on offer other than confidence building come back fights having lost 3 of his last five fights.Hearn knows when Tyson hammers Joshua it really is done.

I think they have got a say. Joshua & Usyk no longer dance to Fury's tune 'Fury is no longer able to dictate terms towards them'.

1: Because Fury has lost the public, and this is a area were he has always been strong and valued. To the point were nobody ever wanted to criticize Fury and his ways, and they would just make things up to embellish anything he does inside the ring. This enabled Fury to create narratives and even attack or uplift certain fighters 'These fighters could of been his genuine nearest rivals or domestic fighters'.

The only people really carrying on endorsing Fury's conduct as a champion, are his hardcore fans and cronies 'That is it, look at this thread mate'.

I have told you before, I have told all hardcore Fury fans 'That Fury has played himself'.

Fury should of already fought Usyk & Joshua, and probably beat them 'The timing would of been really great for Fury last December & earlier this year for Uysk'.

It would of been boss match making wouldn't it mate 'Great timing' ? Getting Joshua just after his second lost to Usyk, taking advantage of his then perceive venerability.

It never happened, and the longer Fury takes to make these fights 'The likely hood of him winning decreases'.

Because this battle between Fury, Usyk, Wilder, Joshua 'Is all about the long game, who is going to be the last man standing' etc.

As David Price stated awhile back, boxing is about who you fight, when you fight them and sometimes who you don't fight. Fury has always throughout his career been able to read a fight and landscape very astutely 'Fury has been guided through his career better than Joshua'.

But Fury has made two mistakes, and two wrong moves by not already fighting Joshua & Usyk when he could have 'At a time when he had all the momentum, form and the public support'.

And now? Team Fury know they have played themselves, that is how I read the situation. Team Joshua & Usyk know Fury has played himself.

Professional boxing is not as straight forward as just going through fighters in linear fashion, it is a skill and tactical as to when fights happen.

Joshua & Usyk if they keep wining, I believe now have more say as to when they want to fight Tyson Fury.

Until then, Fury should just do what all great Champions in history have done 'Take on all comers, fight you next nearest competition' etc.

[juggernaut666]

No offense, but you can't ever predict the future, because to say Usyk is ducking is obvious you don't understand or follow the sport. If you knew the sport and styles, skill level IQ etc, you would know that Fury's toughest fight TO DATE is Usyk. Usyk career is filled with opponents of high calibre, you can't say the same of Fury, his career resume is weak. Since Usyk moved up I said endlessly that Fury would never EVER take the fight because it's too risky to the point that he can be made to look ******. That's what he fears, EMBARRASSMENT. Fury's got many defensive flaws that Usyk would exploit. Usyk's way too good in all areas. Fury's struggled to guys the same size that couldn't hold a candle to Usyk. Fury knows his limits - of course he's not scared of getting hit in the face, but he's scared of being made to look like an amateur. Also Fury is actually 6.7 not 6.9. The man talks so much bs. But never ever has he been this rattled. Without even fighting Usyk his career is ruined he has been exposed for what he is the FRAUD!

Not even I said Fury was going to be a worse champion then Wilder , I don’t think any logical person was thinking that . It turns out not only is he worse but he lies much more then the other guy as well . Fury in fact has surpassed any other champion in history in any sport as the most topsey turvey character that no one with any logical thinking will take seriously.

I don’t know who will win if Fury stops running but my guess is Usyk just on behavior patterns now ? Fury is not the best boxer either that’s something parrots just pass on , how the hell is that guy the best boxer ? He’s got defensive flaws that don’t even match his awkwardness in offense, he balks in fights and needs to use an over amount of feinting and hope opponents reset ..THATS how he looks good and when he can’t get his way he holds and leans on guys but I guess that’s the best boxer on here ? Lol

[juggernaut666]

I have no idea what the hell your talking about where did I say I can predict the future? I said I CAN'T how the hell you going to tell me I don't know the sport when you don't even read what people are posting properly?

Yea yea Usyk beat a broken ass Anthony Joshua and sc****d by Chisora and some other terrible HW im sure Fury is shaking in his boots after having experienced going to Germany beating Wlad who was champ for a decade and then Wilder after a 3 year lay off I'm sure Fury is shaking in his boots at ty
he idea of fighting a cruiserweight who hasn't even dropped anyone at HW and looked ass in 2 of his 4 fights at the weight and don't forget now its Usyk who was demanding the rematch clause guess he isnt as confident as you

You really lost the plot here .

If anyone showed characteristics of being weary or tentative to take certain fights at certain times it’s Fury who was told he better up his game in the rematch by Peter because Wlad was going to bring the heat next time which right after that statement he fled and left for 3 years and probably would never come back had Joshua not swept the boxing world up because he thought no one was ever going to defeat Wlad again and go on to be a fan favorite, let’s not forget when Fury left he was disliked by most and couldn’t even handke being a champion right after he got the decision win ,funny how this forum likes to forget that bc nothings actually changed . Lol


If your really going to down play Usyk I can tell you now every credible post you’ve done on here will be a waste of time because he’s done more already then Fury has his entire time as a heavyweight in just 2 years time , including ruining Fury himself without laying a glove on him . It wasn’t Usyk that demanded the initial rematch either what are you guys on ? It’s like this forum lives in bizarro world most the time where everyone is backwards ? Lol

[davef]

No offense, but you can't ever predict the future, because to say Usyk is ducking is obvious you don't understand or follow the sport. If you knew the sport and styles, skill level IQ etc, you would know that Fury's toughest fight TO DATE is Usyk. Usyk career is filled with opponents of high calibre, you can't say the same of Fury, his career resume is weak. Since Usyk moved up I said endlessly that Fury would never EVER take the fight because it's too risky to the point that he can be made to look ******. That's what he fears, EMBARRASSMENT. Fury's got many defensive flaws that Usyk would exploit. Usyk's way too good in all areas. Fury's struggled to guys the same size that couldn't hold a candle to Usyk. Fury knows his limits - of course he's not scared of getting hit in the face, but he's scared of being made to look like an amateur. Also Fury is actually 6.7 not 6.9. The man talks so much bs. But never ever has he been this rattled. Without even fighting Usyk his career is ruined he has been exposed for what he is the FRAUD!

I have no idea what the hell your talking about where did I say I can predict the future? I said I CAN'T how the hell you going to tell me I don't know the sport when you don't even read what people are posting properly?

Yea yea Usyk beat a broken ass Anthony Joshua and sc****d by Chisora and some other terrible HW im sure Fury is shaking in his boots after having experienced going to Germany beating Wlad who was champ for a decade and then Wilder after a 3 year lay off I'm sure Fury is shaking in his boots at ty
he idea of fighting a cruiserweight who hasn't even dropped anyone at HW and looked ass in 2 of his 4 fights at the weight and don't forget now its Usyk who was demanding the rematch clause guess he isnt as confident as you

[boxology]

I made that post in September 2022 I can't see in to the future...most recent negotiations I do blame Fury but not for being afraid but for thinking hes now Floyd Mayweather and can demand ridiculous numbers

No offense, but you can't ever predict the future, because to say Usyk is ducking is obvious you don't understand or follow the sport. If you knew the sport and styles, skill level IQ etc, you would know that Fury's toughest fight TO DATE is Usyk. Usyk career is filled with opponents of high calibre, you can't say the same of Fury, his career resume is weak. Since Usyk moved up I said endlessly that Fury would never EVER take the fight because it's too risky to the point that he can be made to look ******. That's what he fears, EMBARRASSMENT. Fury's got many defensive flaws that Usyk would exploit. Usyk's way too good in all areas. Fury's struggled to guys the same size that couldn't hold a candle to Usyk. Fury knows his limits - of course he's not scared of getting hit in the face, but he's scared of being made to look like an amateur. Also Fury is actually 6.7 not 6.9. The man talks so much bs. But never ever has he been this rattled. Without even fighting Usyk his career is ruined he has been exposed for what he is the FRAUD!

[davef]

Usyk ducking? You surely still don't believe that after he exposed and called the gypsy queens bluff. I mean 90% of the world know Fury's ducking Usyk.

I made that post in September 2022 I can't see in to the future...most recent negotiations I do blame Fury but not for being afraid but for thinking hes now Floyd Mayweather and can demand ridiculous numbers

[boxology]

AJ has lost 3 of his last 5 fights will you praise Fury for beating him if they fight? That will kind of flaw your logic tho right?

Tell us who Fury is supposed to have fought instead of his current resume? Usyk was the one who said he can't fight and If he fights Joshua and wins it means hes beaten the last 3 other recent Heavyweight champions 5 times and you are saying his resume sucks? Lol..

Fury hasn't fought Ruiz, so you can't judge that one (and funny how that fight couldn't be made just recently, lol). And AJ won the rematch although he was cautious. And AJ has lost twice arguably a future HOF P4P elite in USYK, no shame, and that's what happens when you take risks and fight elite level.

If Fury would fight him first of course I'll give him praise - but he got pummelled in sparring and Fury confessed to it on camera, and that was a prospect AJ. So I can see why Fury has been ducking AJ all these years.

Usyk ducking? You surely still don't believe that after he exposed and called the gypsy queens bluff. I mean 90% of the world know Fury's ducking Usyk. He's had 2 tune up fights since negotiations started. lol Team Usyk reached out before the AJ rematch, with both the blessings of Whyte and AJ to allow the fight with them being assured a title shot - but Fury choose Whyte instead. lol

Loads of opponents Fury can fight but as you can see, HE WON'T MAKE fights with any boxer that has a serious pedigree, or that is a LEGITIMATE threat, he steers clear and ONLY takes the easy fights. It's really not hard to see the pattern and to see how he's the one ducking. He knows his limits and he knows when lesser opponents that couldn't hold a candle to Usyk have given him his toughest fights, he knows Usyk would rip him a new a@#hole! And his constant verbal diarhoea that he is a 7 foot mammoth, lol he's actually 6.6 but was telling everyone he is 6.9. lol

[Bronx2245]

Wilder will lose badly to Usyk imop.

The rest you wrote is sort of true but Wilder needs 2 winnable fights ,he’s getting one soon , and after that ? I’d be careful,if I’m his manager I set up up another guy who’s easily hit . Then see who’s there in the field.

I think, initially, it was foing to be Wilder vs. Helenius, then Wilder vs. Ruiz, because we all assumed Fury vs. Usyk would happen! Now all that as changed! Wilder, if he beats Helenius, has to accept Usyk's challenge!