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  • #11
    Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

    Golovkin was willing to fight Ward at 168. The problem was, Ward wanted a 50/50 split of the money. Golovkin decided that considering he was the A side in this negotiation, that the fight would have to be a catch weight if he wanted the even split to get something out of it and not give Ward all that he wanted. Either that or take less for the fight at SM. Ward didn't do it and decided to keep fighting bums instead.
    Golovkin wouldn't move up to 168 lbs for a legacy fight against Ward. That's shameful, and it's why his resume is mostly garbage.

    But he has no one to blame but himself.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

      Golovkin wouldn't move up to 168 lbs for a legacy fight against Ward. That's shameful, and it's why his resume is mostly garbage.

      But he has no one to blame but himself.
      I've just told you what actually happened. I don't care about your twisted version of events. I care about the truth of the matter. Golovkin was willing to step all the way up to 168 only if he got the split he should have. Ward being the entitled person he was didn't accept that. That's on Ward. You know, the guy who had no problem bending Dawson's arm to drain himself into a zombie so Ward could take advantage of it?

      Then you add in the fact Ward wanted a contract signed a year in advance with Golovkin. But hey, don't let the truth get in your way there either. You've never done so before. Why start now.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        I've just told you what actually happened. I don't care about your twisted version of events. I care about the truth of the matter. Golovkin was willing to step all the way up to 168 only if he got the split he should have. Ward being the entitled person he was didn't accept that. That's on Ward. You know, the guy who had no problem bending Dawson's arm to drain himself into a zombie so Ward could take advantage of it?

        Then you add in the fact Ward wanted a contract signed a year in advance with Golovkin. But hey, don't let the truth get in your way there either. You've never done so before. Why start now.


        What actually happened was GGG said he would fight anyone at 154 -168 and when Ward said lets do it he said no Im too small Ward has to be at a catchweight but JCC Jr is ok at 168.

        Then Canelo went off to become undisputed champion at 168 and now a geriatric GGG like 10 years after his "anyone from 154-168 can get it" claim, FINALLY fought at 168.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

          I've just told you what actually happened. I don't care about your twisted version of events. I care about the truth of the matter. Golovkin was willing to step all the way up to 168 only if he got the split he should have. Ward being the entitled person he was didn't accept that. That's on Ward. You know, the guy who had no problem bending Dawson's arm to drain himself into a zombie so Ward could take advantage of it?

          Then you add in the fact Ward wanted a contract signed a year in advance with Golovkin. But hey, don't let the truth get in your way there either. You've never done so before. Why start now.
          Post a source to back up what you say.

          I can prove that Golovkin was willing to move up to 168 for Chavez Jr, but when it came to Andre Ward suddenly it had to be at a catchweight:

          Golovkin's Coach: Andre Ward Must Go to 164 or No Fight
          ​​​​https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...o-fight--93850

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          • #15
            Originally posted by elfag View Post



            What actually happened was GGG said he would fight anyone at 154 -168 and when Ward said lets do it he said no Im too small Ward has to be at a catchweight but JCC Jr is ok at 168.

            Then Canelo went off to become undisputed champion at 168 and now a geriatric GGG like 10 years after his "anyone from 154-168 can get it" claim, FINALLY fought at 168.
            It was more like, Ward wasn’t worth sht. And that was proven when he did about 100k with Kovalev in a fight every boxing fan was salivating for.

            Like expecting anyone to move up or down to fight Demetrius Andrade.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

              Post a source to back up what you say.

              I can prove that Golovkin was willing to move up to 168 for Chavez Jr, but when it came to Andre Ward suddenly it had to be at a catchweight:

              Golovkin's Coach: Andre Ward Must Go to 164 or No Fight
              ​​​​https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...o-fight--93850
              Sanchez asking for the 164 catch weight is after Ward asked for a 50/50 split of the money. That's why Tom said "50/50 all round". Meaning Ward wants the equal split so they should split the weight as well and have it at 164. That's why Sanchez is stating Golovkin's A side status.

              It isn't hard to look for Ward asking for the split. He said it enough times. You know that. I know that. Every honest person knows it too.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by elfag View Post



                What actually happened was GGG said he would fight anyone at 154 -168 and when Ward said lets do it he said no Im too small Ward has to be at a catchweight but JCC Jr is ok at 168.

                Then Canelo went off to become undisputed champion at 168 and now a geriatric GGG like 10 years after his "anyone from 154-168 can get it" claim, FINALLY fought at 168.
                Sanchez was actually the one mouthing off about that. He put Golovkin in a difficult position. Golovkin didn't want to contradict him. But hey, that's what happens when you have a trainer who can't keep his mouth shut.

                Chavez and Froch would have brought more money in. But with Ward wanting an equal split when he didn't deserve it after being out of the ring and fighting garbage, Golovkin wanted something his way for being the A side. That's when the 164 catch weight came into it. Golovkin was happy to fight Ward at 168 if Golovkin got the bigger share of the money. But Ward didn't want that. That's his fault, nobody else's.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                  Sanchez asking for the 164 catch weight is after Ward asked for a 50/50 split of the money. That's why Tom said "50/50 all round". Meaning Ward wants the equal split so they should split the weight as well and have it at 164. That's why Sanchez is stating Golovkin's A side status.

                  It isn't hard to look for Ward asking for the split. He said it enough times. You know that. I know that. Every honest person knows it too.
                  A 50/50 split of the money was fair.

                  Golovkin needed fighters like Andre Ward to improve his legacy, if he was willing to fight Froch and Chavez Jr at 168 there is no reason why he couldn't have fought Ward there too.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                    A 50/50 split of the money was fair.

                    Golovkin needed fighters like Andre Ward to improve his legacy, if he was willing to fight Froch and Chavez Jr at 168 there is no reason why he couldn't have fought Ward there too.
                    No, a 50/50 split wasn't fair. But i know how you contradict yourself when it comes to an American fighting an overseas fighter. When it's in favour of the American you don't call for a even split the way you do for the overseas fighters. Even if the overseas fighter makes 20 times what the American does.

                    Can you read? Golovkin was willing to fight Ward at 168 if the split was correct. But if Ward insisted on an even split Golovkin wanted something out of it being the A side. That's why he wanted the catchweight.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                      No, a 50/50 split wasn't fair. But i know how you contradict yourself when it comes to an American fighting an overseas fighter. When it's in favour of the American you don't call for a even split the way you do for the overseas fighters. Even if the overseas fighter makes 20 times what the American does.

                      Can you read? Golovkin was willing to fight Ward at 168 if the split was correct. But if Ward insisted on an even split Golovkin wanted something out of it being the A side. That's why he wanted the catchweight.
                      Why would Golovkin deserve more than 50% of the split? That's asinine.

                      He isn't a draw on his own.

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