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  • TDLand
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    #81
    Originally posted by Kzbox

    Major bout and has injuries to heal? he was hardly even hurt he just looked bruised opposed to busted up, Why would he avoid Usyk? Usyk is a good fighter but well too small and Fury will lean on him all night drain his power and KO his ass. Fury chats a load of **** exactly why Usyk should have taken the fight when it was on offer who knows if he will ever have that option again. At the end of the day Usyk was screaming he wants Fury or nobody telling Fury to come out of retirement so he does offers him out then Usyk decides he's too injured gtfoh. Now Usyk is running off to fight Wilder which he will probably get knocked out in that fight.
    How the **** do you know. Old injuries could be the bicep he pulled heavy lifting last year aggravated. You don't ****ing know. So stop pretending you ****ing do. Scum bag Fury can't keep his trap shut. The man is a walking bipolar scum bag. Wanted to kill himself and spews his poison across the globe trying to encite others to mental angiush. The man is scum. Ask AJ. Ask Eddie. Ask Wilder. Ask Klitchko. Ask Usyk. A complete scumbag for a human. Doesn't matter how many belts, only ****ing one by the way. A scumbag regardless so what had he won. A scumbag is a ****ing lowlife scumbag. He dies a scumbag. That's his legacy to humanity. Scumbag.

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    • Monty Fisto
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      #82
      Originally posted by Afi23

      I hear you but fighting an awkward fighter with massive power who lacks fundamentals might actually be trickier for Usyk than fighting one with slightly less power who is more traditional (almost robotic) with "adequate" to solid fundamentals.
      I'd have to respectfully disagree about the awkwardness, though only a fool would ignore the massive power. I think there is a fine line between awkwardness and just plain clumsy and I think Wilder leans to the latter, albeit an athletic clumsy, if that isn't a contradiction in terms. One of Wilder's problems is that he has looked increasinly less athletic with each of his last few fights. Less mobile, less durable, slower to react... all really bad things when you are facing Usyk.

      Wilder's biggest strength has always been that he is able to connect with such concussive force that it temporarily disconnects his opponent from their senses and this allows him to let loose and close out the show. The problem with this is if the opponent has been schooled in boxing from such a young age that even disconnected from their senses, their instincts are sufficient to avoid the follow-up KO. We saw this with the Gypsy King and I believe the same would apply for Usyk(and I also think Usyk would be better at avoiding a full on blow anyway).

      I honestly think the most likely outcome of Usyk vs Wilder is a campaign of attrition where Usyk bounces in an out, pinging Wilder, marking him up, making him bleed, slowing him down, until he exhausts and stops the man late in the fight.
      Last edited by Monty Fisto; 09-17-2022, 06:49 PM.

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      • Kzbox
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        #83
        Originally posted by TDLand

        How the **** do you know. Old injuries could be the bicep he pulled heavy lifting last year aggravated. You don't ****ing know. So stop pretending you ****ing do. Scum bag Fury can't keep his trap shut. The man is a walking bipolar scum bag. Wanted to kill himself and spews his poison across the globe trying to encite others to mental angiush. The man is scum. Ask AJ. Ask Eddie. Ask Wilder. Ask Klitchko. Ask Usyk. A complete scumbag for a human. Doesn't matter how many belts, only ****ing one by the way. A scumbag regardless so what had he won. A scumbag is a ****ing lowlife scumbag. He dies a scumbag. That's his legacy to humanity. Scumbag.
        I know enough to know Usyk wasn't too hurt in that fight i watched the fight more than once, because he has mental health issues and bi polar he is a scumbag? proves what a pos you are tbh not even worth the time. Keep typing your nonsense we know what it is Usyk bailed out so he can't ***** down the line.

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        • oscar9992
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          #84
          My man wants to fight heavyweight killers. Props & respect

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          • buddyr
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            #85
            Originally posted by kafkod
            This would be an easy win for Usyk. I don't think the PBC will allow it.
            wilder isn't easy for anyone. As skillless as he is, all it takes is one punch. That means USYk has to fight a damn near flawless fight and not get hit AT ALL!!! I can guarantee you this, those punches AJ landed late in the fight, had wilder landed one it would have ended instantly.

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            • Afi23
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              #86
              Originally posted by Monty Fisto

              I'd have to respectfully disagree about the awkwardness, though only a fool would ignore the massive power. I think there is a fine line between awkwardness and just plain clumsy and I think Wilder leans to the latter, albeit an athletic clumsy, if that isn't a contradiction in terms. One of Wilder's problems is that he has looked increasinly less athletic with each of his last few fights. Less mobile, less durable, slower to react... all really bad things when you are facing Usyk.

              Wilder's biggest strength has always been that he is able to connect with such concussive force that it temporarily disconnects his opponent from their senses and this allows him to let loose and close out the show. The problem with this is if the opponent has been schooled in boxing from such a young age that even disconnected from their senses, their instincts are sufficient to avoid the follow-up KO. We saw this with the Gypsy King and I believe the same would apply for Usyk(and I also think Usyk would be better at avoiding a full on blow anyway).

              I honestly think the most likely outcome of Usyk vs Wilder is a campaign of attrition where Usyk bounces in an out, pinging Wilder, marking him up, making him bleed, slowing him down, until he exhausts and stops the man late in the fight.
              I respect your analysis. Hopefully, we get to see how it plays out in the ring.

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              • Boxing Goat
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                #87
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                "Fury wants to return at the end of the year - but Usyk wants to take a few months off and stage that fight in early 2023."


                https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fu...-fight--168855
                Got it! Thanks!

                Now I know why I missed it LOL!

                Look at the bloody date and time!

                Published Mon Sep 05, 2022, 04:42 AM EDT

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #88
                  Usyk is a great fight for Wilder. he gets 3 belts with 1 big punch.

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