Canelo Looks Shook? At the Press Conference, Canelo's Energy is Off, Golovkin is Relaxed ... ?

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  • GelfSara
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    #31
    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

    You could be very right. But what do you think about Canelo hitting the sauna first thing on his arrival to Vegas? I mean, I could be wrong, but you want to hit the sauna 24 to 18 hours before the weigh-in. Am I right? This was like 72 hours before the weigh-in? Maybe 96 hours before the weigh-in? He's literally trying to squeeze every milliliter of water out of his body. It's as if he's mummifying himself.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but that just seems like there's a problem.
    This could indeed be a problem. I am not a "weight-cutting** expert"'; but the experts I respect try to limit the period of severe dehydration to the shortest possible duration; typically a day or less. Prolonged dehydration can be very debilitating and can take a while to recover from.

    During the lead-up to this fight I noticed that Canelo seemed both to be carrying more bodyfat than usual (for 168lbs) and also less muscle mass. I of course do not know what Canelo's weight or bodyfat % was before he began dehydrating himself, but one additional advantage of being lean (aside from the performance benefits in the ring) is that muscle contains far more water than does bodyfat, so a boxer with 6% bodyfat who weighs 185lbs "pre-dehydration" will have a much easier time getting down to 168lb than an identical boxer who weighs 185lbs at 12% bodyfat.

    **Read: Prefight-dehydration.

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      #32
      Originally posted by deathofaclown
      Well he’s looking into the face of a man that most people believe beat him twice, he knows that’s what people think too.

      but in reality, How many times have people said that a certain fighter looks shook or nervous and it hasn’t shown in anyway when the bell rings.

      They’ve had over 100 pro fights between them, so I don’t really think any of them are going to be particularly nervous or shook
      Except...I've seen Canelo when he's confident and relaxed, as he was during the week leading up to his demolition of Callum Smith. This isn't that Canelo.

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      • Cypocryphy
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        #33
        Originally posted by deathofaclown
        Well he’s looking into the face of a man that most people believe beat him twice, he knows that’s what people think too.

        but in reality, How many times have people said that a certain fighter looks shook or nervous and it hasn’t shown in anyway when the bell rings.

        They’ve had over 100 pro fights between them, so I don’t really think any of them are going to be particularly nervous or shook
        Guys get shook all the time? What do you mean? The difference is that they're professionals and know how to harness that anxiety. But guys get shook all the time. I have to laugh at all the fanboys on here triggered by this thread, but I didn't make it to troll.

        There's a number of reasons why someone might be shook. They could have suffered an injury in camp and know they aren't at their best. Or maybe the weight cut is not going to plan, and there's fear that the belts might be lost on the scale. There could be a number of things to take one guy out of that mental space you want to be in. Who knows.

        What I do know is that Canelo looks tense AF. He's not himself, and this is not how he was before. Eddie Hearn even said that he'd never seen him like this before. One of the commentators said something to the same effect. And MANY people have been saying this all week. It was just patently obvious to me at this press conference.

        We'll see. But if you were to bet on an underdog, this would be the time.

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          #34
          Originally posted by GelfSara

          This could indeed be a problem. I am not a "weight-cutting** expert"'; but the experts I respect try to limit the period of severe dehydration to the shortest possible duration; typically a day or less. Prolonged dehydration can be very debilitating and can take a while to recover from.

          During the lead-up to this fight I noticed that Canelo seemed both to be carrying more bodyfat than usual (for 168lbs) and also less muscle mass. I of course do not know what Canelo's weight or bodyfat % was before he began dehydrating himself, but one additional advantage of being lean (aside from the performance benefits in the ring) is that muscle contains far more water than does bodyfat, so a boxer with 6% bodyfat who weighs 185lbs "pre-dehydration" will have a much easier time getting down to 168lb than an identical boxer who weighs 185lbs at 12% bodyfat.

          **Read: Prefight-dehydration.
          Interesting. Thanks for that comment. I wasn't aware of that it's easier to dehydrate with more muscle mass. Very interesting.

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            #35
            My cousin Nash out thinks Golovkin wins by stoppage. Cash in

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              #36
              Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

              Neither man is afraid or “shook”. Only one shook is the drama queen making this dumb post.
              Guys get shook all the time. It happens. Even to pros.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Lance98
                People were saying canelo was very uptight during the 2nd fight's conferences and weigh-in, but canelo ended up beating ggg and making a mess out of his face. Don't take what you see during pre-fight conferences/weigh-ins at face value.
                Weird. I saw that and don't remember any of that happening. Can you link something to show what you are talking about? Thanks.

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                • Cypocryphy
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by GelfSara

                  Perhaps, but a lot of people are seeing this same thing. As I wrote on Twitter on September 9:

                  "With 8 days before #CaneloGGG3, @GGGBoxing acts like he's going to a dinner party while Canelo acts like he's going to his own execution. Hmmm."
                  Exactly!! I'm listing to a podcast right now, that was made a couple days ago, and they are saying the exactly same thing. I'm hearing it from others too now.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cash in
                    My cousin Nash out thinks Golovkin wins by stoppage. Cash in
                    Your cousin might be on to something! Your cousin might actually get me to bet on GGG by KO

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cypocryphy


                      Start watching at 1:03:00

                      Is it just me or does Canelo look glassy-eyed and nervous? He seems very tense, as if he's carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. Meanwhile, Golovkin looks like he's about to attend an evening dinner. He almost looks a little smug, as if he knows something that we don't know ... am I seeing this correctly? Thoughts? (Because right now, it appears to me that Golovkin is winning the mental battle for this fight, with himself, while Canelo is losing the mental battle with himself.)

                      - - Canelo shook cuz he know U billionaire fight picker and Ring curse him 20-0 in Ring prefight picks like they did him vs Bivol.

                      How much U clear this fight. Couple mil?

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