Do you agree with this guy about Mayweather vs Marquez?

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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #11
    Originally posted by Fulcrum29
    Simply because Pacman's last 2 fights were Floyd's left overs anyway, guys that Floyd beat far better and fresher versions of. So yes Floyd deserves to be back at #1 whether it's by himself or honorarily tied with Pac.
    But Floyd fighting an older, fatter, more ring worn version of one of Pac's leftovers, at 3 weight classes higher, warrants him #1?

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    • Al Haymon
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      #12
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      He's had 1 fight in the last 2 years against a blownup middleweight, and likely won't fight again until 2010.

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      Paging Bernard Hopkins...

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      • joartcc5
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        #13
        Originally posted by Parody


        He makes some good points IMO.
        Beating a lightweight makes you p4p.

        That guy is gayweather's lover.

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        • ßringer
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          #14
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Paging Bernard Hopkins...
          Hopkins' body of work > Floyd's.

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          • blacksocks
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            #15
            I don't think he was being objective. He tries to justify Floyd's victory as nothing else but superior skills, not taking into account the weight difference that affected JMM a lot.

            Weight wouldn't matter much if a guy like Pacquiao can bring up his power and speed with him--Marquez simply wasn't at his best in his fight with Floyd. All advantages were on Floyd.

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            • BennyST
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              #16
              Originally posted by Fulcrum29
              I only listened to the first 2 minutes of it cus I don't have 10 min to waste right now but it was absolutely accurate to that point.
              What some people are failing to see is that Floyd did not fight this fight as the bigger guy, he fought it as the fastest guy, Floyd might as well have weighed less than Marquez in this fight. Like the guy in the video says, if you're a bigger fighter you're supposed to be getting hit more because you're slower.
              As an example of this just take a look at DLH vs. Hopkins when Oscar challenged the much bigger Bernard and according to many people dominated the first 5 or 6 rounds because he was much faster and was flurrying alot and hitting Bernard with much faster shots until the SIZE of Bernard finally played an advantage in that his power was too overwhelming for Oscar because he didn't have the quantity but he had the QUALITY of power when he landed that big bomb on his kidney and knocked Oscar out.

              In this fight however it was the complete opposite, Floyd was supposedly "bigger" yet that had nothing to do with the fact that he was ten times faster than Marquez too and his defense was ten times better which allowed Marquez to connect only at like a 19% rate. How was Floyd's "size" responsible for a 80% connect rate or whatever ridiculous number it was that he put out on Marquez? So it's very simple, point is is that Floyd simply outskilled Marquez and the size would have had no difference. The only way this fight would have been based on size is if Floyd knocked Marquez out or punished/hurt him often then people could honestly say "Well wow, Floyd's size played a major role" but like I said Floyd didn't fight like the bigger man, he fought like the faster, slicker and defensively better man. Case closed.

              Oscar was always faster than Hopkins and he was also not even close to dominated. In fact Oscar hardly won anything in that fight. He moved away the whole time, Marquez chased down Mayweather. Big difference in both fights and it's a ****** comparison.

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              • JOM'S
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                If Mayweather doesn't face Shane or winner of Cotto vs Pacquiao, I'll agree he is ducking. Till then, we should all wait.
                yeah i agree that we should all wait and see how thing will come out ...

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