Floyd will have to go up to 160 and fight the winner of Pavlik-PWill

[Owlzfan84]

Or beat Joshua Clottey @147 or Sergio Martinez at 154 to get any credit. All four are way bigger fighters than Floyd, a former Super Featherweight.


Nobody from 154 and down, that Floyd embarrasses(He' doesn't beat them he embarrasses/frustrates them for 12 rounds) would get Floyd any credit.

147 Top fighters:

Sugar Shane Mosley: "Too old, past prime"


Manny Pacquiao: Simply "Too small" or "He's been through too many wars"


Miguel Cotto: Damaged Goods, Pacquiao softened him up" and if Cotto beats Pacquiao "Margarito softened Cotto up for Floyd"


Andre Berto: "Too green"


Joshua Clottey: Haters would have no excuse but it's just too bad HBO would not pay enough to motivate Floyd for this fight.


154:

Sergio Martinez: I assume that Floyd would get praised by even his illest haters with a win over the much bigger Sergio Martinez. Martinez is most likely the only fighter at 154-160 who can beat the very dangerous Paul Williams.


Kermit Cintron: Way bigger than Floyd, but i just can't see the haters manning up enough to give Floyd credit for a win over Cintron since Cintron is known for "crying" a lot I think they'll say "Well he just beat a cry-baby, big woop"


Sergiy Dzinziruk: Would most likely get Floyd a gram of credit, but i wouldn't be surprised to hear "He was untested, didn't fight anyone special before Floyd"


Corey Spinks Not even I would give Floyd credit for this fight.


James KirklandMuch bigger than Floyd, but most likely too green for a fighter like Floyd.


Alfredo Angulo: Watch Mayweather-Marquez/Mayweather-DLH


And Lastly, 160:

Paul Williams/Kelly Pavlik: Would be two giants in front of Floyd. Each have one loss with Pavlik having the more credible loss in the hands of the great Bernard Hopkins at 170 pounds. And Williams coming back to show the world that the Quintana loss was just a one time only thing, by blasting Quintana out in 1 round in their rematch.

Joshua Clottey
Sergio Martinez
Paul Williams/Kelly Pavlik

Are the only current fighters that would make haters give a former Super Featherweight, any kind of credit. And that's just wishful thinking in my part.

In all honesty he's right to a degree. I could see people saying Mosley is too old, and Cotto is damaged goods. If he beat either, and to me especially Cotto, i would give him all the credit in the world.

[BadNewz]

This is exactly right. If you don't give credit to Floyd for his DOMINANT win last night against the guy who was #2 on most people's PFP lists, then you'll never give Floyd credit even if he beats Sugar Ray Robinson himself. You'll always find an excuse.

The hatred those people have for Floyd has nothing to do with his boxing. They hate him because of who he is, just like the people who hated Ali.

[Al Haymon]

OP,

Great thread and great points. Except I would bet you that MANY of the posters on here have not seen more than one Sergio fight. And wouldn't give FMJ credit because they don't know how good Martinez is.

[Freddy Krueger]

The hatred those people have for Floyd has nothing to do with his boxing. They hate him because of who he is, just like the people who hated Ali.

Most people I know who hate Floyd also happen to be black, they hate him for the same reason I hate him. They find him not to be an exciting fighter but quite boring. I love how boxingscene members try to play the race-card sometimes.

[Crazylegs77]

This is exactly right. If you don't give credit to Floyd for his DOMINANT win last night against the guy who was #2 on most people's PFP lists, then you'll never give Floyd credit even if he beats Sugar Ray Robinson himself. You'll always find an excuse.

The hatred those people have for Floyd has nothing to do with his boxing. They hate him because of who he is, just like the people who hated Ali.

I dont think anyone literally hates him I think they find him annoying since he proclaims he is the best ever yet will not fight the best at WW. Doesnt help that his personality is off putting. He makes himself an easy target for the"hate"

[Kevin Jesus]

This is exactly right. If you don't give credit to Floyd for his DOMINANT win last night against the guy who was #2 on most people's PFP lists, then you'll never give Floyd credit even if he beats Sugar Ray Robinson himself. You'll always find an excuse.

The hatred those people have for Floyd has nothing to do with his boxing. They hate him because of who he is, just like the people who hated Ali.

I didn't give Floyd credit for his win over Marquez. It was just a tune up.

But you're right about people hating him for who he is and not really focusing on how dominant he is as a boxer no matter who he is up against.

[Kevin Jesus]

OP,

Great thread and great points. Except I would bet you that MANY of the posters on here have not seen more than one Sergio fight. And wouldn't give FMJ credit because they don't know how good Martinez is.

It's sad but you're most likely right.

Sergio Could beat anyone, and give Floyd a hell of a fight. I'll go as far as to say Martinez can beat Floyd, but i think Mayweather would win in a classic boxing match.

[Pullcounter]

floyd gets credit once he starts fighting the current top 5 WWs.

[Kevin Jesus]

floyd gets credit once he starts fighting the current top 5 MW's.

Fixed it for you.