Artur bterbiev is the best fighter..

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  • jmrf4435
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    #11
    Originally posted by headshots



    some people are getting overrated.

    Him and usyk both.


    How many hall of famers have they beaten collectively? 0 at this point.
    what currnt fighters beat usyk and beterbiev?

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      #12
      Originally posted by lopetego
      If he was so great and sure of himself, he wouldn't be blatanly ducking Bivol for years and hiding under Arum's skirt to avoid him
      Bivol has gilberto to fight..

      winner gets Artur

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        #13
        Originally posted by eco1
        I don't think Artur is slow and some people, including other fighters seem to get fooled on this subject until they get in there with him and don't see his hands coming.

        Beterbiev to me is the best right now along with Usyk, before the injure. We will see after he gets back in the ring what he brings.
        I agree--how strong is he? He made joe smith look like a middle weight physically

        artur is onee of the best and will do well at cruiserweight

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          #14
          Originally posted by lopetego
          If he was so great and sure of himself, he wouldn't be blatanly ducking Bivol for years and hiding under Arum's skirt to avoid him
          Bivol's manager is literally under a Weirwood tree before Covid saying we don't need the Beterbiev fight. Thats back in 2019. Go search for it. Beterbiev went to Arum and he wants the fight. Nice try anyway.

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            #15
            Originally posted by hhh1200

            Bivol's manager is literally under a Weirwood tree before Covid saying we don't need the Beterbiev fight. Thats back in 2019. Go search for it. Beterbiev went to Arum and he wants the fight. Nice try anyway.

            Arum said the same chit like a month ago

            the better question is,

            why did Beterbiev run to PBC when he was under the same promotion as Bivol?

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              #16
              Originally posted by HeadShots



              some people are getting overrated.

              him and usyk both.


              how many hall of famers have they beaten collectively? 0 at this point.
              yeah, I agree, they need to be black or North American or both to be rated correctly.

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                #17
                Originally posted by HeadShots


                Arum said the same chit like a month ago

                the better question is,

                why did Beterbiev run to PBC when he was under the same promotion as Bivol?
                The better question is why Bivol and Ramirez didn't fight Beterbiev who had more belts on Top Rank vs running to other promotions to fight each other. That's 2 - 1 in Beterbiev's favor. As I said, nice try.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by HeadShots
                  nah he's too slow for someone that isn't rangey. he hasn't fought a quick elite boxer yet.

                  his resume is very very thin.

                  These eastern euros with big amateur backgrounds have proven though that they can jump right in the mix at the pros and all that amateur experience in their 20s really does add up to something. I used to think it was different but that is seeing a lot of olympic medalist flop as pros but usually they were western fighters like an audley harrison who won the gold at a young age but didnt have the 200+ amateur fights some of these guys have into their 20s.


                  Anyways there is no historically elite guy to challenge Beterbiev, he has knocked out everyone thus far. I think a prime roy jones could beat him sure but then you are talking the best of the best. His timing and pressure are great he has knocked out a lot of guys with faster hands.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HeadShots



                    some people are getting overrated.

                    him and usyk both.


                    how many hall of famers have they beaten collectively? 0 at this point.
                    How many hall of famers has Crawford beat who you rate highly?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by lopetego
                      If he was so great and sure of himself, he wouldn't be blatanly ducking Bivol for years and hiding under Arum's skirt to avoid him
                      Blatantly ducked him while unifying the division.

                      Most of you guys were calling Bivol a Eurobum with no special effects until he shut Canelo out.

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