Give Mayweather 0 credit, doesn't matter. Lets wait and see what happens next.

[Doctor_Tenma]

It doesn't matter what credit they give him JMM still got dominated that is a FACT. He fights Pac let em say he is too small who cares he is getting his ass whooped. Mosley to old? Keep talking that new point in his loss column came from someone BETTER than him. This is what I will always state. No matter how much you hate, try to discredit, or try to bash, IN THAT RING, you can't deny the skill.

Exactly, well said.

[BennyST]

Lets all see what Mayweather does next. Some people are hurt that Marquez lost, I can understand that feeling but that wasn't Marquez's weight, we all understand this. So why are we all fighting?

I don't think anyone is actually hurt that he lost. Everyone expected it though I myself didn't expect the size difference to be that obvious. Mayweather was massive in comparison. Anyway, people are just pissed at him and his dodging, politicians tactics. It was a tune up and Marquez made a mint off it which is great.

Still, there are two fights out there that everyone wants to see. Mosley and Pacquiao. He deliberately took the Marquez fight to get up on Pac. If you're going to do that type of thing you have to then say something about Pac. He's still as young as Mayweather, he's bigger than Marquez and still in his prime and it's really the only fight out there, but, he refuses to talk about it in any way? That's what people are pissed about. He made his statement that he's better than Pac, now he has to man up and fight him. Pac has already called him out, just as Marquez did, now he has to accept just as he said he did about Marquez "Marquez called me out and if a fighter does that, they got it coming".

I think he deserves everything he's gotten so far. All his money comes from us fans, yet he refuses to give the fans what they want. I still don't know why Mayweather aren't pissed at him. Do they all want to just keep watching him dodge every possible great fight out there for him?

Cotto would make him more than Marquez, Pac would make him more than Marquez, Mosley might.... you know, there is so much but he refuses to comment or even speculate on any of it.

One of the other biggest tings though is his constant contradiction of himself. "I'm my own boss" - "Talk to Haymon and Elerbe" - My ****s paid for. Is yours?". ****, he's even contradicting himself by fighting Marquez, because that in itself is saying "I'm gonna fight Pac but first I'm gonna beat his nemesis more than he ever could". You don't go and say "Pac couldn't even beat this guy. I'm gonna whoop him" and then not expect people to say "How long til the Pac fight then?" and him start making BS excuses. Or saying "I'm the real P4P number one" when there is another one there already which is the fight everyone wants to see but he still refuses to say anything about it. There isn't another fighter today that is so unwilling to make any comments on future fights. When Cotto was asked about Mayweather he would always simply say "Sure, if we can make it and my promotion want it then lets get it on" and he is one of the worst for not saying anything about future fights. He still said "Lets do it" though.

[Aracibo04]

what will it take for you to be disappointed in floyd? He could have picked from a bunch of ww to fight a tune up. collazo, berto, cintron. and so forth. If he is so great even after a lay off he could beat any of those.

Since TS refuses to address my question I will try to answer it for him.
Because floyd does not care about boxing. he only cares that people smother him with good praises. He has skills, but I don't care about a boxer who is not willing to put those skills to the test and give the best he has on the ring.
i only ordered the fight because i wanted to support jmm, i did not expect him to win. And just for the record. if cotto beats pac in similar fashion he will get full credit from me as long as he lives up to the agreed weight. If for some reason cotto does not meet the agreed weight he gets zero credit.

[BennyST]

It doesn't matter what credit they give him JMM still got dominated that is a FACT. He fights Pac let em say he is too small who cares he is getting his ass whooped. Mosley to old? Keep talking that new point in his loss column came from someone BETTER than him. This is what I will always state. No matter how much you hate, try to discredit, or try to bash, IN THAT RING, you can't deny the skill.

No one denies it. That's what everyone keeps saying. But, everyone, apart from it seems a lot of Mayweather's biggest fans, want to see him in with a fighter that will actually create a good fight instead of against guys that are too small and too old. That isn't an excuse at all either. Did you watch the fight? Or are you going to pretend it wasn't that obvious.

Jesus.... I love watching Mayweather fight. He's brilliant. I still want to watch him in a fight though, not against someone he's going to simply showcase his skills against.

Just think about this for a second: Mayweather and you fans spout his greatness for all to hear. This is greatness compared to Mayweather: Take on every guy that is said to be a challenge. Everyone that is said to be able to beat you. Take on the biggest KO fighter, the best boxer, the most skilled brawler, come back after a six year lay off and jump up two weight divisions to fight the recognised P4P king and win. See, that equates to risk taking and greatness and then you can truly say you're the greatest. Take the biggest risks, and the fight that the fans want to see. People won't get pissed then at his constant crap.

Oh, and please, don't say Oscar was a big risk. He had lost so many fights and he was so beatable it wasn't really that big a risk.

[Toney Loc]

what will it take for you to be disappointed in floyd? He could have picked from a bunch of ww to fight a tune up. collazo, berto, cintron. and so forth. If he is so great even after a lay off he could beat any of those.

Cause Marquez brings in more money than all those fighters and is no worse than the P4P#2 fighter.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Cause Marquez brings in more money than all those fighters and is no worse than the P4P#2 fighter.

The thing is, we all would have done the same had we been in that situation.





I'm still gonna say, wait and see what happens next.

[Pullcounter]

You're all right, that wasn't Marquez, Marquez. No one is denying that. It's sad to see a fighter of Marquez's caliber, being rated so low on Mayweather's resume, considering the 2 year layoff. That doesn't only insult Mayweather but Marquez also.

its no insult to JMM. JMM was a blown up LW. Floyd was probably a MW on fight night.

Lets all wait and see what happens next. I'm hoping for Mayweather vs Shane, atleast on Free HBO.

that's the only fight that matters imho

Another thing I wanted to say, as Mangler Jr braught up. It may be dangrous for Marquez to go back down to 135 after building all that muscle. I think Marquez should go down to 140.

nah, he should go back to LW. he didn't gain any muscle, just fat.

I believe he can take over that division.

I ain't counting him out at 140 lbs, but none of those fights are easy fights for him and everyone is a 50/50 fight.

Don't think Marquez is ruined as a fighter.

not ruined, but diminished

Also wanted to say, I still view Mayweather vs Pacquiao as a 50/50 fight.

hells no... floyd is too big.

Mayweather's domination over Marquez didn't change anyhing for me.

I'll have to see the cotto/pac fight first. I don't even know if pac gets past cotto.

Lets stop with the Mayweather/ Marquez stuff. We got Cotto vs Pacquiao, Shane vs Berto/ Clottey or possibly Mayweather, Vitali Klitschko vs Chris Arreola, Haye vs Valuev, Chad Dawson vs Johnson...alot more to talk about then Mayweather's win over Marquez.

huh? its only been 1 day

[Pullcounter]

Cause Marquez brings in more money than all those fighters and is no worse than the P4P#2 fighter.

floyd got his tune up... that's cool. lets see him fight a real WW now

[Aracibo04]

Cause Marquez brings in more money than all those fighters and is no worse than the P4P#2 fighter.

right i came to that conclusion in another thread. so again floyd does not care about boxing.

[Aracibo04]

The thing is, we all would have done the same had we been in that situation.





I'm still gonna say, wait and see what happens next.

yea I can understand floyd taking jmm's call out and fighting him, he knows where the money is at. what is not right is the fact that floyd did not bother to live up to the original weight stipulated in the contract. you are right most of us would have taken the fight AND made the weight that was agreed upon. would that have made a difference in the fight? maybe not maybe a little we will never know because floyd did not do as he said he would.