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  • Dakuwaqa
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    #11
    Originally posted by deathofaclown

    That’s what AJ always lacked

    he’s always trained in that lottery funded sports institute, it’s not a real boxing gym. Him and his friends treat it like a holiday camp.

    I’ve always believed that’s why he has no veteran tactics in the ring, the dark arts of using your size etc getting dirty.

    they are things you learn in proper gyms, they toughen you up. Fury was about 19 or 20 when he just jumped on a plane to Detroit on his own and looked for the Kronk gym and met Manny, and obviously Sugar Hill. I can’t imagine AJ ever doing that on his own accord. He’s always wanted his little comfort zone, that’s why he never left that funded sports centre after he left the Olympic set up. I believe that mentality out of ring follows you into the ring.
    You must be a very proud father !

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    • Outwest Exp 355
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      #12
      Originally posted by James Hunt
      If he didn't move his spoiled arse to Cali for the Usyk rematch, he never will.
      Have you ever been to Oxnard? Why the hell would anyone want to go there.

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      • MusoMeanderings
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        #13
        Joshua is very good. He's just not elite.

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        • Dakuwaqa
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          #14
          Originally posted by MusoMeanderings
          Joshua is very good. He's just not elite.
          He’s absolutely elite

          Usyk and Fury are just ‘super elite’

          AJ beats everyone else

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            #15
            Carl Froch also used to train at the sports institute, or has trained their for some of his biggest fights.

            I don't think there is anything wrong with Joshua training their. Peter Fury has went on record stating 'That he thinks Joshua is pretty much the hardest worker in the game'.

            I don't think Joshua's work ethic is in question.

            But? There will be no harm in Joshua making a new sacrifice and experiencing something different 'For his next training camp'.

            I don't think anybody is right on this thread. Some fighters train in groups, others in solitary confinement almost.

            Who is their in California that will push Joshua? What Heavyweights? Joshua will turn up their and still pretty much be the apex fighter.

            I used to watch videos of training from Floyd Mayweather Junior's gym. Now that gym seemed extremely competitive, brutal.

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              #16
              Originally posted by thack
              Wherever he trains , he can't train any harder than he has.The truth is Joshua has the beating of many at heavyweight but a few will always beat him . He is possibly in the top five but is vulnerable to fighters with a dig and tricky guys like Usyk and Fury who have much better skills than him.He looked better in the rematch and maybe the best he's been but he still fell short .....that's Joshua.
              Who is there in California?

              In the sports institute, there will also be other fighters. Who are in the game solely to be the best 'That is what the amateur game is about'.

              The professional game not so much? There are plenty of fighters in the professional game who train not really at the maximum.

              Fighters pick up bad lifestyle habits.

              Somebody like Adrian Broner, was probably training harder as a Amateur than as a professional etc.

              When it comes to work ethic, the only real fighters who can rival Joshua are his closet competitors 'Such as Usyk himself'.
              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-30-2022, 05:50 AM.

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              • Bob
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

                He’s absolutely elite

                Usyk and Fury are just ‘super elite’

                AJ beats everyone else
                History has proven otherwise.
                He's been carried by rematchroom fighting shot old men throughout his prime.
                No coincidence the last 2 he boxed of his own generation both beat him.

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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown

                  That’s what AJ always lacked

                  he’s always trained in that lottery funded sports institute, it’s not a real boxing gym. Him and his friends treat it like a holiday camp.

                  I’ve always believed that’s why he has no veteran tactics in the ring, the dark arts of using your size etc getting dirty.

                  they are things you learn in proper gyms, they toughen you up. Fury was about 19 or 20 when he just jumped on a plane to Detroit on his own and looked for the Kronk gym and met Manny, and obviously Sugar Hill. I can’t imagine AJ ever doing that on his own accord. He’s always wanted his little comfort zone, that’s why he never left that funded sports centre after he left the Olympic set up. I believe that mentality out of ring follows you into the ring.
                  Fury learnt rough house tactics from his people 'Bare knuckle fighters etc'. I don't think he learnt it from anybody in boxing.

                  Because I just don't see any gyms around like that anymore.

                  Joshua could turn up to a gym wherever, at he is pretty much going to be the apex fighter. What gyms have heavyweights or a culture of heavyweights that will push him?

                  It is only Joshua's rivals who can push him. I have been listening to both Dominic Ingle and Peter Fury of late, and I think they would be good trainers for Joshua.

                  Just some of the things Fury was saying, I wonder if the Fury's would welcome Joshua?

                  Adam Booth, Dominic Ingle, Peter Fury, Don Charles. All good trainers.

                  Note: Tyson Fury has never been a bare knuckle fighter, but being in and around that culture coming up. He would of seen and learnt certain skills, certain ways of conduct of man or fighter in the arena of violence.
                  Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-30-2022, 04:03 PM.

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                  • Ragga1
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                    #19
                    There some good comments in here, then some not so good ones! Haha. AJ looked good with Garcia in his corner, he put in a good performance but was the lesser man on the night. There are plenty of good trainers here too in the UK that have been suggested, I would add Ben Davison to that list as well. If as suggested by Garcia he does a 2 month camp in California before he fights, he can still use his current home to tick over and still be around the elite amateur environment as he always has been.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Outwest Exp 355

                      Have you ever been to Oxnard? Why the hell would anyone want to go there.
                      He's relocated to Riverside awhile ago but same ****,different toilet I suppose. Maybe that's the grit Joshua could benefit from along with talent that would surround him.

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