Comments Thread For: Impartiality Might Be Dead, But at Least AJ Was Getting Real

[Boxviewer]

The way the media in Britain have rallied around and lied to Joshua yet again is truly pathetic.

spencer Oliver writing love letters to his man. Laura woods, and so many others have tried their best to make joshua the winner. They’ve given minimal air time or praise to usyk and it’s all about how great joshua did. People need to turn off the sound, re watch the fight and score it again.

Joshua did slightly better than the first fight. All this talk the media wanna give about “he only started boxing at 15” or “he made boxing what it is today” “if aj retires boxing loses something and many people lose their jobs, stadium fights won’t return”

or how about Spencer telling Joshua
“You outboxed the best boxer on earth!”
they’ve implied that he gets treat harsher than any other fighter in this country! Apparently he doesn’t get the respect he deserves either.

Why didn’t they talk like this when he was bullying an old shot pulev AFTER stopping him already in their fight.

Bellew licking AJ backside too. They made sure that these people were unopposed essentially when spreading this rubbish. They made sure that nobody was their to argue the other side. That on top of the dodgy judges that were bought off (Feldman) just shows us the corruption in this sport.

So pathetic.

Pointing finger is for the delusional and dishonest individuals like you. Be honest for once and look and listening around you wherever you come from. We all are partisan and biased to certain degree. If AJ were your favourite boxer your comment would have sounded differently.

BTW, what's your headache if someone wants to sympathiser with AJ and or show him some compassion? You are just hating for the sake of it.

[P to the J]

What utter rank nonsense of an article. This not WWF Tris!. AJ had to be physically restrained from attacking two people. Is that your version of being authentic, real Tris?. He took the belts that wernt his and dumped them, did you see the look on Usyks face? It was a face of this guys crazy!! Let him do what he wants so he doesnt hurt anyone. If this is journalism then we are in deep trouble.

I mean, it was a shocking article all-round, talking as if bias in the media sphere is a recent development. LOL.

YES MATE, back when you were a younger and more confident person, and everything seemed rosy as a result, people were just more impartial, and therefore, better. Now you’re middle-aged, and not as confident, everything and everyone is not as good.

Dog**** journalism, ironically betraying the same bias he claims should be missing from journalism when comparing this era to way back when.

[P to the J]

He did the same against Ruiz to a lesser degree, butted in & made the post fight interview all about him taking away Ruiz moment, Usyks moment & the Ukraines moment.

Probably seems like all I do is give AJ a kicking, but I’ve spent a lot of time watching this man, and all I can say is that he is a person that is absolutely terrified of losing control of any situation and is desperate to save face and his image.

Don’t know what happened to this guy when he was younger, but I guess it can’t have been good. Probably bullied at school, or something.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I can't believe people are trying to put a positive spin on this. It is ugly to watch any man lose control of his emotions. If people think that is ok then standards will drop even further. Also, Joshua got away with it because he is BIG and everyone was literally terrified of him except Chisora who went up to him. It's not a good sign when people let stuff like this go.

I think you need to get a grip mate, and sort your attitude out. And everyone who agree's with you, also needs to do the same.

Most fighters at some point in their career, let their frustration, emotions or competitiveness boil over. This has resulted in brawls, verbal abuse and threats.

Chisora had a brawl with David Haye, Mike Tyson has done similar with numerous opponents 'Outside the ring, during build ups and actually after fights'.

Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bower, Roberto Duran, these are all 'All time great fighters who are highly respected, who have let the heat of competition spill over at some point'.

Do you want me to post the video's? Do you have any idea, about the history of boxing? Does anyone on this forum or thread have any idea about the history of boxing and how historically fighters have behaved at times? I am completely amazed by what I am reading here. I think it is absolutely pathetic.

Muhammad Ali, yes that is right Muhammad Ali has also many a times let the competition boil over outside the ring. There are some very notorious and famous incidents, regarding Sonny Listen and Joe Frazier many more of his opponents. That is why I truly do not understand this backlash with Anthony Joshua, it is definitely a result of some kind of agenda against Joshua 'That is more sinister than it originally appears'.

There must be a institutionalized agenda, which some people fall for because they are lemmings. Fury has just given a interview with talk sport were he for close to 20 minutes gave Usyk heavy abuse and no real acknowledgement that he is great boxer 'How come he is not being criticized for this, if you guys are all so upset by Joshua small outburst?'.

So what is your issue? Boxing is a very real sport, with very real dangers and consequences. How Anthony Joshua behaved on the weekend was extremely mild, very tame compared to most of the incidents that have happened in boxing.

So why is he being overly criticized? I tell you why, because there is a growing completely fake virtue signalling cult in boxing. Of people who pine over sportsmanship.

Are you one of them? Are you one of these people who pine over seeing boxers, hugging, shaking hands and being best mates before fights? Surely I am not the only posters who have noticed this group of people. For me the only respect opponents need to show each other, is preparing optimally and not cheating 'And as far as I am concerned Anthony Joshua did just that'.

Did you even watch the build up to Wilder vs Fury I, II, III 'The things both fighters said, and how they behaved was way more hostile than Joshua'. But that is alright, I have no issue with this, that is what you call 'Passion, raw competitive passion'.

It happens mate, John Mcenroe used to react and let the passion of competition boil over all of the time. What is worst? How Anthony Joshua behaved or this below?

It is just a combination of passion, frustration and competitiveness. Get a grip people, pathetic.

Let also factor in that Joshua apologized after the fight. He was clearly suffering after the fight, and you can tell by how he behaved none of that was natural to him.

Note: I want to let people know in general, that it is alright to overtly show passion. It is not a crime to let frustration and competitiveness boil over sometimes 'Depending on the actions you take'. Anthony Joshua did not threaten anybody, he did not attack anybody physically, all he did was give a suffering and painful speech 'I personally did not like seeing it because, I could see that Joshua was suffering and needed to be stopped by his team'.

Can we take any positives from it? I think if your a Joshua fan you can 'It shows that he has not truly accepted the loss, and he still wants to win real bad'. How many fighters are there these days who deep down, don't compete intrinsically to win 'Joshua is not one of those fighters'.

There is a definitely a institutionalized agenda against Joshua.

[Boxviewer]

The same ******ity as saying that all political options are the same.

All ratings in boxing are subjective and are influenced by partisanship. If you are not aware of this then you are plain ****** and a big fool.

[alexjust]

What utter rank nonsense of an article. This not WWF Tris!. AJ had to be physically restrained from attacking two people. Is that your version of being authentic, real Tris?. He took the belts that wernt his and dumped them, did you see the look on Usyks face? It was a face of this guys crazy!! Let him do what he wants so he doesnt hurt anyone. If this is journalism then we are in deep trouble.

I think he raised a valid point of objectivity in journalism. I was watching lots of interviews in the build-up for this fight. It was an AJ show. Usyk, the great champ, was virtually nonexistent. At best, someone in passing would say:"Yes, Usyk is great boxer" and only while discussing what AJ should do to beat him. The whole boxing journalism (with a few exceptions) turned into AJ cheerleading squad. It was embarrassing. If Usyk were to be paid proportionally to how much attention he got compared to AJ, he'd be fighting for free. In fact, he'd owe us money. It was disgraceful to watch - the whole boxing world and AJ vs a truly talented, humble, decent guy from a war-torn Ukraine. So, I'm glad someone publicly raised it. And I'm even happier that he won. And they all lost.

[Boxopera]

Getting Real- Anthony Joshua

""I've never been there - but at the same time what's happening there is - I don't know what's happening there - but it's not nice at the end of the day."

Had to turn off my pirate stream.

[James Hunt]

All ratings in boxing are subjective and are influenced by partisanship. If you are not aware of this then you are plain ****** and a big fool.

Stop relativizing when you know very well that WBA and WBC are the worst. They don't even follow their own rules, and that's everything.

[Bo Tae]

The "journalists" covering this event were mostly just typists, sad to say.

Stenographers of the Joshua narrative.

[Boxviewer]

I think you need to get a grip mate, and sort your attitude out. And everyone who agree's with you, also needs to do the same.

Most fighters at some point in their career, let their frustration, emotions or competitiveness boil over. This has resulted in brawls, verbal abuse and threats.

Chisora had a brawl with David Haye, Mike Tyson has done similar with numerous opponents 'Outside the ring, during build ups and actually after fights'.

Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bower, Roberto Duran, these are all 'All time great fighters who are highly respected, who have let the heat of competition spill over at some point'.

Do you want me to post the video's? Do you have any idea, about the history of boxing? Does anyone on this forum or thread have any idea about the history of boxing and how historically fighters have behaved at times? I am completely amazed by what I am reading here. I think it is absolutely pathetic.

Muhammad Ali, yes that is right Muhammad Ali has also many a times let the competition boil over outside the ring. There are some very notorious and famous incidents, regarding Sonny Listen and Joe Frazier many more of his opponents. That is why I truly do not understand this backlash with Anthony Joshua, it is definitely a result of some kind of agenda against Joshua 'That is more sinister than it originally appears'.

There must be a institutionalized agenda, which some people fall for because they are lemmings. Fury has just given a interview with talk sport were he for close to 20 minutes gave Usyk heavy abuse and no real acknowledgement that he is great boxer 'How come he is not being criticized for this, if you guys are all so upset by Joshua small outburst?'.

So what is your issue? Boxing is a very real sport, with very real dangers and consequences. How Anthony Joshua behaved on the weekend was extremely mild, very tame compared to most of the incidents that have happened in boxing.

So why is he being overly criticized? I tell you why, because there is a growing completely fake virtue signalling cult in boxing. Of people who pine over sportsmanship.

Are you one of them? Are you one of these people who pine over seeing boxers, hugging, shaking hands and being best mates before fights? Surely I am not the only posters who have noticed this group of people. For me the only respect opponents need to show each other, is preparing optimally and not cheating 'And as far as I am concerned Anthony Joshua did just that'.

Did you even watch the build up to Wilder vs Fury I, II, III 'The things both fighters said, and how they behaved was way more hostile than Joshua'. But that is alright, I have no issue with this, that is what you call 'Passion, raw competitive passion'.

It happens mate, John Mcenroe used to react and let the passion of competition boil over all of the time. What is worst? How Anthony Joshua behaved or this below?

It is just a combination of passion, frustration and competitiveness. Get a grip people, pathetic.

Let also factor in that Joshua apologized after the fight. He was clearly suffering after the fight, and you can tell by how he behaved none of that was natural to him.

Note: I want to let people know in general, that it is alright to overtly show passion. It is not a crime to let frustration and competitiveness boil over sometimes 'Depending on the actions you take'. Anthony Joshua did not threaten anybody, he did not attack anybody physically, all he did was give a suffering and painful speech 'I personally did not like seeing it because, I could see that Joshua was suffering and needed to be stopped by his team'.

Can we take any positives from it? I think if your a Joshua fan you can 'It shows that he has not truly accepted the loss, and he still wants to win real bad'. How many fighters are there these days who deep down, don't compete intrinsically to win 'Joshua is not one of those fighters'.

There is a definitely a institutionalized agenda against Joshua.

Great Post and very educational for these keyboard toughies who don't seem to have the foggiest clue of what they are talking about.