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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #61
    Originally posted by Boxing Goat

    He hasn't made a short night for anyone including an old, shot, CW Cunningham but he will for the best heavyweight in the game ........Yeah, that makes perfect sense
    Remember that I said a “VERY short night”. Very easy fight for Fury.

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    • illpusher
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      #62
      I’ve been Following both Usyk and Fury for a long time, and even though I love Fury and his **** talk, he is talking out of his ass. Who has Fury really beaten an Old stiff Wald Klitsckho who honestly ****** and had no chin when compared to the great HW champs. Fury could not knock this version out. Truth is Fury isnt a heavy puncher that the wilder fight made him out to be, Wilder boxing skills ****** so that wilder win isnt as crazy as it seems as well.

      Here is why all the Fury people who think its easy for him are wrong.

      1) Fury got dropped by a small Cunningham
      2) Usyk got better feet then fury
      3) Usyk is in better condition then Fury
      4) Usyk got a ****load of volume and keeps it up through 12
      5) About the same age
      6) Usyk is a very disciplined fighter and religious, that **** talk fury has will not get in his mind like it did against klitsckho, and wilder, usyk only fears god. Thats furys biggest asset is his phycology game, he broke wald and wilder with it.
      7) Fury will fight a stylistic nightmare in a mobile Usyk something that wald, wilder and jousha do not present.
      8) Usyk has a better chin and more will then Wald, Wilder and Jousha.

      Anyone who thinks that fight will be easy for Fury is iut if their mind, this will be a very hard fight for fury in which he can very well lose. After all Usyk beat Jousha who us a better win then Fury wald win and wilder.

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      • Boxing Goat
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        #63
        Originally posted by buddyr

        not necessarily.
        Is it hard to read punch stats or what?

        AJ landed under 2 jabs per rd and 8.41 power shots per rd.

        I'd say that's pretty elusive considering AJ's massive size/reach advantage.

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        • hugh grant
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          #64
          Originally posted by TMLT87
          I'd favour Fury but theres no substitute for actually getting in there and removing all doubt.

          As much as i'd like to see Fury keep on fighting for years, if he really wants to retire before 35 then the Usyk fight would be a fitting way to wrap up both his career and pretty much the whole HW era. I dont think there is any really clear obvious challenger after Usyk that Fury would be pressured to stick around and face after that. Its basically the final showdown, the last men standing after a bunch of **** thats happened from Fury/Wlad to today, one guy definitively taking out Joshua and the other definitively taking out Wilder. Its a suitable full stop.
          Many would favour Usyk, but true theres no substitute for Usyk getting fury in the ring to remove all lingering doubt as to Usyk winning. Yes id like fury to continure fighting only because theres some good opponents out there and its not as if Fury has had truckloads of fights even though hes been around a while now.

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            #65
            Originally posted by illpusher
            I’ve been Following both Usyk and Fury for a long time, and even though I love Fury and his **** talk, he is talking out of his ass. Who has Fury really beaten an Old stiff Wald Klitsckho who honestly ****** and had no chin when compared to the great HW champs. Fury could not knock this version out. Truth is Fury isnt a heavy puncher that the wilder fight made him out to be, Wilder boxing skills ****** so that wilder win isnt as crazy as it seems as well.

            Here is why all the Fury people who think its easy for him are wrong.

            1) Fury got dropped by a small Cunningham
            2) Usyk got better feet then fury
            3) Usyk is in better condition then Fury
            4) Usyk got a ****load of volume and keeps it up through 12
            5) About the same age
            6) Usyk is a very disciplined fighter and religious, that **** talk fury has will not get in his mind like it did against klitsckho, and wilder, usyk only fears god. Thats furys biggest asset is his phycology game, he broke wald and wilder with it.
            7) Fury will fight a stylistic nightmare in a mobile Usyk something that wald, wilder and jousha do not present.
            8) Usyk has a better chin and more will then Wald, Wilder and Jousha.

            Anyone who thinks that fight will be easy for Fury is iut if their mind, this will be a very hard fight for fury in which he can very well lose. After all Usyk beat Jousha who us a better win then Fury wald win and wilder.
            To say that Joshua is a better win than Wilder or Wlad is just silly. For one - everyone that Wilder fights gets knocked out, even Fury got knocked down - Joshua though good and has good power is not on the same power level as Wilder. Usyk used superior boxing skill to beat Joshua, nothing else. Usyk is not knocking out any of the top heavyweights, he doesn't have the power at this weight class. Bottom line - Joshua got outclassed, period. The difference between Fury and Joshua - is the ability to box. Fury has tremendous boxing skill (jab, hook, uppercut, using different angles & levels, good defense and mobility), all of which is not a strength of Joshua. Joshua was tailor made for Usyk to beat him. Fury is not an ideal fight for Usyk - a bigger man (50+ pounds), taller man (7-8" reach avantage) and someone who can box, move, and utilize his power. I'm very interested in this fight, but would not be surprised to see Fury get a stoppage vs Usyk.

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            • Boxing Goat
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              #66
              Originally posted by coachjpat

              To say that Joshua is a better win than Wilder or Wlad is just silly. For one - everyone that Wilder fights gets knocked out, even Fury got knocked down - Joshua though good and has good power is not on the same power level as Wilder. Usyk used superior boxing skill to beat Joshua, nothing else. Usyk is not knocking out any of the top heavyweights, he doesn't have the power at this weight class. Bottom line - Joshua got outclassed, period. The difference between Fury and Joshua - is the ability to box. Fury has tremendous boxing skill (jab, hook, uppercut, using different angles & levels, good defense and mobility), all of which is not a strength of Joshua. Joshua was tailor made for Usyk to beat him. Fury is not an ideal fight for Usyk - a bigger man (50+ pounds), taller man (7-8" reach avantage) and someone who can box, move, and utilize his power. I'm very interested in this fight, but would not be surprised to see Fury get a stoppage vs Usyk.
              No it's not, Wlad was 39 and had shown signs of really fading in his prev fight and while I do regard the Wilder wins as awesome, Wilder is limited and not considered as well rounded and as difficult of a fight as AJ. Not to mention AJ is way more accomplished than Wilder. AJ has a very impressive record including beating Wladimir more convincingly than Fury did.

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              • IAMTHAT
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                #67
                Originally posted by P to the J


                Agree with all, except… are Fury’s shots that obvious? Have I missed a tell in his game??
                From Usyks perspective, not Wilder.

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                • steeve steel
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat

                  This fact? Oh shut up
                  Your comment falls short, just like Usyk will. Boom shakalaka!

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                  • steeve steel
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by WillieWild114

                    Yall love to say he too big but his big behind got knocked down plenty of times by guys that were -214. The only reason I think he will beat Uysk is his height is great for Uysk style. If Uysk can switch to the swarmer style he might be able to beat Fury
                    It's heavyweight boxing, anything can happen, but it rarely does. A great big man beats a small great man, this saying is there for a reason. Fury has been down, but always gets up and wins, and at the end of the day, that's what matters.

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                    • miniq
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                      #70
                      Fury will make quick work of him and people will be:

                      1. Shocked
                      2. Claim he was a cruiserweight
                      3. Not surprised because you understand boxing.

                      Fury will brutally TKO or finish him with 1 punch tearing his heart out and eating it in the ring.

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