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  • Jack Rivers
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    #31
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

    Fury did not really fight Whyte with his inside game.

    Well you are saying that Fury will not be able to be on Usyk, like he was with Wilder? Why not?

    What is Usyk going to do from a distance vs Fury. Because unlike against Joshua, Fury will be launching out a strong Jab.

    Usyk will not be able to compete with Fury from long range. Which forces him to use his mid-range game, which is good.

    Usyk will have to employ ambush type tactics. I.E David Haye vs Nikola Valuev. That is the type of fight he must fight.

    Dancing around on the outside, and then exploding into mid-range attacks.

    Haye had explosive heavy power, Usyk does not. So I honestly think Fury after a few rounds of using his long range game.

    Will switch things up and start to charge in behind his Jab, and **** Usyk to the body then bring the punches up from underneath.

    Fury has just faced the most destructive puncher in game three times. He is not going to be phased by the threat of Usyk's power.

    If Usyk is to beat Tyson Fury, I am stating it right now. It will be down to Fury fatiguing in the second half of the fight.

    Chisora was able to close Usyk down, and if Joshua's intent was 100% on closing Usyk down 'He could of'. I don't think Usyk is hard to find inside the ring. The only reason why he beat Chisora was down to Chisora fatiguing.

    Usyk will have to show a different dimension to his game to beat Fury. And I think that dimension is 'Inside game'. It will not be enough just dancing around, and throwing some point scoring mid-range attacks 'Fury will take him into a very chaotic place'.

    Note: As I wrote this post, I understood and I realized that? I have anticipated that ambush tactics, and mid-range attacks will not be enough to beat Fury. Because there is a very high likely-hood, that Fury just decides to Charge Usyk down. If Fury can charge Wilder down, who not only has destructive power 'But Wilder actually has the second best Jab in the division'. If Tyson Fury charged into that kind of potential danger, then I honestly believe he will have no issue committing to extremely violent, direct and pressuring game plan vs Usyk 'At some point in the fight, Fury may just decide to make it a fight and not a boxing match'.

    Wilder started losing his stamina in the 3rd round of both fights lol. They guy fights straight up and paws not jabs to throw his right. Saying that since fury charged wilder down he will do that to usyk with not being afraid is irrelevant. Charging wilder down is like trying to catch a tree. Charging usyk down is like trying to catch a rabbit in an open field. Where are you pulling your stats that wilder has the 2nd best jab in the division out your bum? Wilder barely lands punches cause he paws not jabs. Ortiz had him out jabbed and losing both fights. Wilder quickly gives up on the jab and just goes for the home run if it ain't working. Dude, ortiz, ruiz, aj, usyk and a long list have better jabs. You don't know what you're taking about and everything else you said is irrelevant cause you don't know boxing.

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    • Mammoth
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      #32
      I see why Fury is the favorite here but I wouldn't put money on it. Usyk is still the better boxer of the two.

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      • Damn Wicked
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        #33
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        Wilder was way overrated. Look at what Wallin' was doing to Fury.., even in the very last round of the fight, even when Fury was trying to lean on him and use his size. Usyk can do better than Wallin. Fury is less mobile than he used to be...This will be a difficult fight for Fury, if he ever chooses to accept the challenge.

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        • PRINCEKOOL
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          #34
          Originally posted by Jack Rivers

          Wilder started losing his stamina in the 3rd round of both fights lol. They guy fights straight up and paws not jabs to throw his right. Saying that since fury charged wilder down he will do that to usyk with not being afraid is irrelevant. Charging wilder down is like trying to catch a tree. Charging usyk down is like trying to catch a rabbit in an open field. Where are you pulling your stats that wilder has the 2nd best jab in the division out your bum? Wilder barely lands punches cause he paws not jabs. Ortiz had him out jabbed and losing both fights. Wilder quickly gives up on the jab and just goes for the home run if it ain't working. Dude, ortiz, ruiz, aj, usyk and a long list have better jabs. You don't know what you're taking about and everything else you said is irrelevant cause you don't know boxing.
          Chisora movement is not the best, and he had no problem finding Usyk when they fought. Even when he was fatigued he was still finding Usyk.

          If Fury wants to charge Usyk down, he will find him.

          Who exactly has Usyk evaded? His movement is overrated.

          Usyk was not really getting away from Joshua, because for me? Joshua was content to go after him, but deliberately stop and keep the action from mid-range.

          I watched Joshua almost by accident get on the inside vs Usyk, then voluntary take HIMSELF out of that range 'And I was shaking my head'.

          Usyk is not hard to find for a Heavyweight who can cut off the ring well, and has good movement.

          Fury's defensive movement is no longer at the level, as to when he was 'The Riddler'.

          But his offensive movement is still very good, he can cut the ring off and he knows what he is doing 'He will find Usyk'.

          Wilder has the second best Jab in the division, he has been one of the very few fighters who could jab with Fury. Wilder has always had a good jab, by far better than Anthony Joshua's 'This is clear, anyone who is honest and has watched his fights will know this'.

          Wilder has never been in the ring with any fighter who has completely taken away his Jab. He may have dropped rounds to Ortiz, but his Jab was still competing 'His Jab helped him set up his second win over Ortiz' One of the wins anyway.



          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-23-2022, 10:01 PM.

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          • Raggamuffin
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            #35
            Usyk would be fighting someone who has just as fast hands as him who knows how to stalk a guy and use his jab. To me he has ZERO chance.

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            • Lupara
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              #36
              This thread is ***n hilarious

              I love Usyk, but it's not even close when it comes to who's the favourite

              That massive coke ogre has all the advantages bar speed.

              I wish I was wrong. .

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              • SimpleTouchee
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                #37
                Fury Taylor made for Usyk, Usyk know how to fight bigger heavyweights fast counter punching and movement will give Fury problems even though he's not a puncher Fury struggled with a southpaw Wallin and should've gotten tko due to cuts. And Usyk is a southpaw.

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                • SimpleTouchee
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Damn Wicked
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                  Wilder was way overrated. Look at what Wallin' was doing to Fury.., even in the very last round of the fight, even when Fury was trying to lean on him and use his size. Usyk can do better than Wallin. Fury is less mobile than he used to be...This will be a difficult fight for Fury, if he ever chooses to accept the challenge.
                  That's Joseph Parker who's always been overrated. Had like 5 or 6 gift decisions in his career.

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                  • SimpleTouchee
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                    #39
                    Fury only way to win is to maul Usyk not going out skill Usyk became he will get schooled!

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                    • SimpleTouchee
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SimpleTouchee
                      Fury only way to win is to maul Usyk not going out skill Usyk became he will get schooled!
                      Also Usyk will not load up on power punches like a WIlder. Fury is going to have to lose some weight because Usyk will keep the action in the center of the ring using angles, pivoting in and out and will keep that southpaw jab in his face... with fast counter punching.

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