Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Repeats, Wins Split Decision Over Anthony Joshua To Retain Titles

[Quercusalba]

Wlad/Fury was one of the most boring fights I've ever seen. Fury won, fair play to him. However, Fury completely imploded afterwards (drug use, obesity, failing a drug test) and Wlad wasn't given an opportunity to recapture the titles he held for so long. I think Fury couldn't handle the pressure that comes with sitting on the throne, and I think that's why he's playing the "retirement" game right now. Fortunately, he defended his title this time around.

As for the Glovegate conspiracy, it was propigated by Wilder fanboys on social media...nothing to be taken seriously.

Look at what happened to Ruiz when it was his time to wear the crown...he self-sabotaged just like Fury. Joshua understands the pressure and has been trying to hold it together, but he's beginning to come apart at the seams. Usyk winning was a blessing in disguise for him.

I don't think we're disagreeing with each other much at all.

Yeah, you're mostly right about the real boxing community not taking the Fury glove controversy seriously, but didn't Floyd get on board with it? I may be misremembering, but I think he did.

I, like many, wish we could have seen Fury vs Klitschko II.

[low blows]

It comes down to whether he accepts it's now big fight, big money time or whether he's still chasing belts.

I suspect he'll go for the latter and his commercial backing will be able to make those fights happen. Probably just an easy tune up in between.

Personally I think he should chase the money fights. They've still got to happen in this era.

DAZN better have outs on the contract or there will be egg on their faces if Joshua loses to a fighter a level below championship level. Who does he fight for "belt"? Dubois is the only guy with a belt and that belt could be bought at any haberdashery in London.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Tyson Fury is not held to the same standards as Joshua. Inside the ring, or outside the ring. Not today, or at any point in his career 'And he won't be in the future'.

I think at the end there, Joshua let out a lot of pent up frustration. But I honestly, don't think it was correct for the time 'It was not good mate'.

He definitively should of been held back by his team. I also don't think people should mock him.

Joshua tried, put in a good effort. But he was definitely beat by the better fighter tonight. 100%, I rate Usyk 'And I like him as a fighter'.

Anthony Joshua has won the Olympic Gold Medal, two time heavyweight Champion. Has many sponsors, he has been a winner.

It’s because Tyson Fury doesn’t take himself seriously and as such can relate to people. Tyson also isn’t a self pretentious prick. He’s humble and wasn’t handed a silver platter. He had to drag himself to the top. AJ has serious social problems. You can clearly see it whenever he attempts to engage in any meaningful conversation or express himself. Deep down he knows he was gifted Gold in the Olympics. The public knows it as well. That’s why they are so hard on him. He’s fake as they come. Talented? No doubt about it. Seen people like him all my life.

[IAMTHAT]

The close score cards actually reflected what happened this time. Last fight was not close at all. Kudo to Joshua for improvement, but that cringe speach(?) at the end didn’t help his image. Just when he was garnering my respect he goes and does that.

Honestly I went back to rewatch that, there’s nothing that aj said all that bad … he ultimately praised Usyk, said **** didn’t come easy to him in life and he fought hard to get to where he got to, and celebrated with the crowd.

[IAMTHAT]

It’s because Tyson Fury doesn’t take himself seriously and as such can relate to people. Tyson also isn’t a self pretentious prick. He’s humble and wasn’t handed a silver platter. He had to drag himself to the top. AJ has serious social problems. You can clearly see it whenever he attempts to engage in any meaningful conversation or express himself. Deep down he knows he was gifted Gold in the Olympics. The public knows it as well. That’s why they are so hard on him. He’s fake as they come. Talented? No doubt about it. Seen people like him all my life.

Tyson fury is a bit of prick

[Boxingfanatic75]

Tyson fury is a bit of prick

EXACTLY! But he doesn’t pretend that he isn’t! That’s what makes the difference between he and AJ

[PRINCEKOOL]

He never mentioned fury. You Joshua fans are mental mate. What a weird bunch. Do you live under a rock? You have seen how fury was treat for every mistake whilst Joshua got away with racism multiple times, threatening innocent uni students that are half his body weight and had NO Boxing training whatsoever.

what a melt you are bro. Deal with the fact aj is done. Nothing more than a gatekeeper now and he’s disgraced himself slinging usyks belts around!!

Go back and look at Joshua acting ****y in round 9 then go watch his body language the VERY NEXT ROUND! Obvious symptoms of a BULLY. He’s an on top fighter. Soon as the going gets tough he folds like a lawn chair.

Anthony Joshua is not racist. Against who? You tell me who Joshua is racist against?

I am sure I can find more offensive things said by Fury about people, way more than Joshua.

But that sort of stuff happens, I am sure in your everyday life? You have heard people say some racist, and outlandish things.

And those same people are all quiet in the presence of certain demographics.

Joshua inside and outside of the ring is held to a higher standard. He has been the most heavily criticize boxer in the sport.

You seem to be vicariously living through these people who beat Anthony Joshua. And your behavior right now is very low.

I am not going to call you any names , or play the game you are playing 'I honestly don't need to'.

Because people can see who is what right here mate.

You can reply back, and answer my questions. But I won't be saying anything else on the matter.

[_Rexy_]

I didn't listen to the post-fight stuff, but I've always found it surprising when fighters try to get eloquent after being in a fight. Exhausted, absorbed punishment...not the best time to give a long-winded speech.

Whatever was said, I hope AJ gets his head right. AJ and Wilder (to a lesser degree) were the reason I got invested in HW to begin with. It'd be nice if they can build themselves back up and then face each other. Wilder took his extended break, maybe AJ needs to take one now.

Usyk/Fury is the most logical match-up, but it's hard to predict what's going on in Fury's head.

It was bloody insanity

[_Rexy_]

Joshua's team should of held him back at the end there.

You are right about the pressure, Joshua has been under big pressure. And you must be honest?

He has been the most heavily criticized boxer pretty much in the sport. Right from the start. But that is what happens when you win the Olympic Gold Medal.

Tyson Fury is not held to the same standards as Joshua. Inside the ring, or outside the ring. Not today, or at any point in his career 'And he won't be in the future'.

I think at the end there, Joshua let out a lot of pent up frustration. But I honestly, don't think it was correct for the time 'It was not good mate'.

He definitively should of been held back by his team. I also don't think people should mock him.

Joshua tried, put in a good effort. But he was definitely beat by the better fighter tonight. 100%, I rate Usyk 'And I like him as a fighter'.

Anthony Joshua has won the Olympic Gold Medal, two time heavyweight Champion. Has many sponsors, he has been a winner.

Dealing with a loss is not new to him, but this position he is in now 'Right now is different, this is new'.

He is not down and out, but he cannot claim to be the best Heavyweight in the game. If he has associated this with his identity, these are delicate times.

Joshua needs a good team around him. And Compassion.

Know who else has been under some pressure lately?

Usyk. And he didn't have a ten minute Oliver McCall moment in the ring.

[kiaba360]

I don't think we're disagreeing with each other much at all.

Yeah, you're mostly right about the real boxing community not taking the Fury glove controversy seriously, but didn't Floyd get on board with it? I may be misremembering, but I think he did.

I, like many, wish we could have seen Fury vs Klitschko II.

My minor point of contention was the idea that Fury is held to unfair standards. We want champions to fight respectable competition and to give their best effort in the ring. Fury self-sabotaging behavior prevented him from living up to that standard. He's been restoring his reputation recently, but now he decides to "retire" again and disturb the natural order of the division again. For the most part, Joshua has been a consumate professional who's been upholding the standard of what I expect from a champion. He's been getting paid very well, so nobody should throw a pity party for him. However, I think AJ has held up pretty well under the pressure...but he clearly needs a sports psychologist if he doesn't have one.

Fury/Wlad 2 should've happened, but I wouldn't have been able to sit through it. I wasn't a fan of HW boxing (still not tbh), and that fight killed my interest until AJ and Wilder ascended to title-holders.