Calling it now, Usyk by stoppage late rounds

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  • BodyBagz
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    #31
    Originally posted by MONGOOSE66
    If I could step into either man’s body in their second fight. I wouldnt hesitate to answer AJ. He has the reach, height and weight advantage. The only thing he lacks is the ability to “adjust” in the moment and he already “knows” what’s in front of him so theirs no spontaneous need for adjusting.
    Usyk already took those advantages away.
    Unless AJ got taller and increased his reach, not much else will have changed.

    Other than his fight with Wlad, AJ tends to lose focus when times get rough.

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      #32
      Originally posted by BodyBagz

      Usyk already took those advantages away.
      Unless AJ got taller and increased his reach, not much else will have changed.

      Other than his fight with Wlad, AJ tends to lose focus when times get rough.
      I agree he looses focus mostly cause he just can’t ADJUST in the moment. That said, Usyk didn’t take away. He “took advantage” of an OBVIOUS weakness that Ruiz exposed.
      Let’s see if AJ (after training for Usyk) can impose all those physical advantages.
      I EXPECT Usyk to change it up also (maybe midfight). That may be key to Usyk winning again. AJ just can’t adjust spontaneously.

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        #33
        Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

        I agree he looses focus mostly cause he just can’t ADJUST in the moment. That said, Usyk didn’t take away. He “took advantage” of an OBVIOUS weakness that Ruiz exposed.
        Let’s see if AJ (after training for Usyk) can impose all those physical advantages.
        I EXPECT Usyk to change it up also (maybe midfight). That may be key to Usyk winning again. AJ just can’t adjust spontaneously.
        AJ's size didn't alter Usyk's game plan.
        Perhaps AJ didn't properly utilize his size to it's fullest (this is where a new coach may have use) ?
        That's the only thing I can think of.

        AJ is not a boxer (slick fighter)
        He's a power puncher.
        Whether or not it works, AJ has to ''bully'' Usyk.
        Make the smaller man beat him on his (AJ's) terms.

        Can Usyk do it even better the 2nd time ?
        Yep. Especially if AJ makes it easy for him by charging in.
        Or maybe AJ can catch USyk off guard and overwhelm him early ?

        AJ, win/lose doing what you do best.
        That's all you can do.

        Maybe Usyk has his number

        I like both guys but I think the better boxer beats the better puncher
        Think of SRL vs Hearns and Ali vs Foreman
        (I'm not putting AJ or Usyk on their level)

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          #34
          Originally posted by Haka

          No the consensus is AJ takes the point decision or KO's the smaller guy this time around. I agree with TS.
          That is most definitely not the consensus. 9/10 people are picking Usyk by late stoppage.

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            #35
            Originally posted by BodyBagz

            AJ's size didn't alter Usyk's game plan.
            Perhaps AJ didn't properly utilize his size to it's fullest (this is where a new coach may have use) ?
            That's the only thing I can think of.

            AJ is not a boxer (slick fighter)
            He's a power puncher.
            Whether or not it works, AJ has to ''bully'' Usyk.
            Make the smaller man beat him on his (AJ's) terms.

            Can Usyk do it even better the 2nd time ?
            Yep. Especially if AJ makes it easy for him by charging in.
            Or maybe AJ can catch USyk off guard and overwhelm him early ?

            AJ, win/lose doing what you do best.
            That's all you can do.

            Maybe Usyk has his number

            I like both guys but I think the better boxer beats the better puncher
            Think of SRL vs Hearns and Ali vs Foreman
            (I'm not putting AJ or Usyk on their level)
            AJ just needs to let Usyk be Usyk. Watch Teo vs Loma. It’s that easy. I just don’t know if AJ is smart enough. He has the gifts though.

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              #36
              Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

              AJ just needs to let Usyk be Usyk. Watch Teo vs Loma. It’s that easy. I just don’t know if AJ is smart enough. He has the gifts though.
              Usyk was rag dolled by an old Chisora and had no idea what to do.

              He’s far from unbeatable

              Styles make fights and I think Usyk just has AJs number.

              I watched AJ vs Povetkin again earlier. Povetkin landed everything on him, hooks, uppercuts.

              AJ can’t box at range. When he gets in close he needs to let of hard combos.

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                #37
                Hopefully Usyk KOs AJ and AJ can leave the top heavyweights alone once and for all.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by elfag
                  Calling it now, Usyk wins by stoppage between rounds 8-10

                  AJ looks shook. Their weights roughly the same. Usyk same weight, AJ gained 4 instead of trying to slim down.

                  Impossible for AJ to make true adjustments with a new coach in one go. Usyk will work him over with angles and accumulation like last fight but last fight he was safety first down to the end, wouldnt press for the stoppage when it was there to be had. This time when he sees AJ fading he will go for the kill.
                  - - Watching el*** gag on himself...priceless...

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                  • MONGOOSE66
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

                    Usyk was rag dolled by an old Chisora and had no idea what to do.

                    He’s far from unbeatable

                    Styles make fights and I think Usyk just has AJs number.

                    I watched AJ vs Povetkin again earlier. Povetkin landed everything on him, hooks, uppercuts.

                    AJ can’t box at range. When he gets in close he needs to let of hard combos.
                    He also don’t know how to jab. He needs too throw a jab like a bazooka.

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                    • Dakuwaqa
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                      He also don’t know how to jab. He needs too throw a jab like a bazooka.
                      His jab is crap. Never lands with consistency you can see it coming from a mile off.

                      His straight punches are generally poor.

                      I do think he has a decent straight right counter when he doesn’t load up. Problem is it doesn’t have the weight behind to cause big damage

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