jaron ennis and vergil ortiz

[Madison Boxing]

whats the plan with these two? seems they have been floating round fringe world level forever especially boots who is coming up to 30 fights. are they ever going to be involved in a big event or is the plan just to wait until spence/crawford move division/retire and then pick up a belt? and is there something stopping them from fighting each other or they just going to wait fighting c level opposition for as long as needed.... i understand building fighters up gradually but neither are improving their opposition and vergils last opponent was just awful

[BigDramaShow!]

whats the plan with these two? seems they have been floating round fringe world level forever especially boots who is coming up to 30 fights. are they ever going to be involved in a big event or is the plan just to wait until spence/crawford move division/retire and then pick up a belt? and is there something stopping them from fighting each other or they just going to wait fighting c level opposition for as long as needed.... i understand building fighters up gradually but neither are improving their opposition and vergils last opponent was just awful

Their level of opposition right now is way way better than Canelo's 40 fights.

[Flickergrab98]

Their level of opposition right now is way way better than Canelo's 40 fights.

Stay on topic. Christ

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2028 or 2029

[War Room]

whats the plan with these two? seems they have been floating round fringe world level forever especially boots who is coming up to 30 fights. are they ever going to be involved in a big event or is the plan just to wait until spence/crawford move division/retire and then pick up a belt? and is there something stopping them from fighting each other or they just going to wait fighting c level opposition for as long as needed.... i understand building fighters up gradually but neither are improving their opposition and vergils last opponent was just awful

To be fair, he had some funky disease and just came back after a layoff. I don't have a problem with getting a cherry in there to shed the rust.

They're probably looking to get belts and all the belts are held up with Crawford and Spence and they're just waiting it out.

Ortiz and Ennis would be a great fight though.

[Flickergrab98]

whats the plan with these two? seems they have been floating round fringe world level forever especially boots who is coming up to 30 fights. are they ever going to be involved in a big event or is the plan just to wait until spence/crawford move division/retire and then pick up a belt? and is there something stopping them from fighting each other or they just going to wait fighting c level opposition for as long as needed.... i understand building fighters up gradually but neither are improving their opposition and vergils last opponent was just awful

The biggest problem is that most of the guys that we actually want to see them fight are part of different promotion companies and networks. Ennis is on Showtime, while Ortiz is part of DAZN and Golden Boy. So long as it stays that way, the chances of them fighting each other is practically zero unless there’s pretty much no one else left.

With Ennis I suspect he’s waiting for Spence and Crawford to fight it out. I think he’s probably most intent on fighting Spence whether or not he’s champion by the end of it; his logic is probably that is Spence is champion he can at least get a belt out of fighting him, but if Spence has lost to Crawford, well then Ennis probably feels he can pounce on him while he’s presumably starting to decline. A fight between him and Spence is possible since they’re both with Showtime, none of the hassle of competing networks and promoters getting in the way.
That’s the same reason I say that Conor Benn is the biggest name that Ortiz could realistically fight in the near future since both of them are on DAZN.

[Flickergrab98]

To be fair, he had some funky disease and just came back after a layoff. I don't have a problem with getting a cherry in there to shed the rust.

They're probably looking to get belts and all the belts are held up with Crawford and Spence and they're just waiting it out.

Ortiz and Ennis would be a great fight though.

Oh, no question about that. If only the people behind them would stop getting in the way of making it happen.

[QueensburyRules]

whats the plan with these two? seems they have been floating round fringe world level forever especially boots who is coming up to 30 fights. are they ever going to be involved in a big event or is the plan just to wait until spence/crawford move division/retire and then pick up a belt? and is there something stopping them from fighting each other or they just going to wait fighting c level opposition for as long as needed.... i understand building fighters up gradually but neither are improving their opposition and vergils last opponent was just awful

- - Verg turned pro 18 years of age fought better comp than bootsie and been calling out Crawford for 2 years now.

What grade U in now?

[Flickergrab98]

- - Verg turned pro 18 years of age fought better comp than bootsie and been calling out Crawford for 2 years now.

What grade U in now?

You’re missing the point.

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Especially Ennis is behind of clouds. We don't know how good is he? Is he snowboating merchant overrated hypejob or real deal? He is 25 and his best win is Lipinets.