Comments Thread For: Khan on Usyk: He's in Great Shape, He's A lot Bigger, A lot Thicker - Still Very Quick

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  • P to the J
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    Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool

    If we are being serious here for a minute....

    Usyk gradually gained weight after he moved up to heavyweight, fight by fight, a few lbs here, a few lbs there. It seemed like a pretty natural progression for a guy who was making 200 pretty easily at cw

    221 vs Joshua 1 to me seemed like a pretty natural weight for the guy when in peak shape, 21 lbs North of what he weighed in (fairly comfortably at cw)

    He clearly lost a lot of size with the war situation, when he was IN Instagram for example he was looking quite gaunt, and I wouldny have been shocked if his weight was below 200lbs at that point.

    Now its likely that he would rehydrate, get back on a good diet and regain most of that size in a standard training camp, yes, however him being BIGGER than before is a major red flag, especially as, remember, this is boxing training NOT bodybuilding or mass gaining. In fact boxing training normally you LOSE weight.

    In my opinion Usyk is absoloutley not natural at this stage, just think logically about it. It wouldn't make any sense. To me it's obvious he's hopped on something to get back into shape quickly for the rematch and it's worked, really ****ing well.

    I'm expecting a brutal ko of Joshua.

    Perhaps something has been lost in translation somewhere along the way, and obv it’s tough to get confirmation of his weight in Feb/Mar, but yeah, sounds weird

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  • RoadMan94
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    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    I doubt Usyk will be much bigger. These sort of reports always come out leading up to fights.

    Maybe he will come in a tad bigger, but so will Joshua.

    I think Joshua will land between 242-244 pounds.

    Take the 12 th round out of the fight. Joshua was the fighter who inflicted the most damage, and who's semi-aggressive attacks were shaking Usyk.

    I watched the fight back last week. Good fight, Usyk's performance was a tad overrated.

    Usyk won the fight from rounds 9-12, up until that point it was pretty much level. Usyk clearly the better boxer, but surprising Joshua hung in their with those tactics.

    The 12 th round is a bit overrated as well, Joshua's fatigue made it seem more dramatic. Even still he invaded most of Usyk's attacks.

    I am still backing Joshua to win. Maybe even over the distance. Ether which way, he is going to win.

    This is a joke right? you aren’t being serious. Are you sure you watched AJ/Usyk? Joshua was punching thin air and his own performance is overrated. It was meek and pathetic. He didn’t look like he wanted to win whatsoever. Too happy to to survive. I look forward to looking out for you one week tomorrow. Don’t disappear buddy.

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  • Superbee
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    Originally posted by Andrij
    So Usyk will weigh 255 pounds by saying that he gained 33 pounds since the last fight ?
    Was it what he gained between the fights or what he weighs now ? I don't see him @ 250+ for the fight ... 225-230 maybe ?

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  • RoadMan94
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    Originally posted by Andrij

    Wrong. The UK is one of our 3 main allies. US and Poland the other 2.
    Thankyou. I was gonna check the fool, but to come from you was much, much better. Glory to your country of heroes. That’s soldiers and civilians! SLAVA Ukraine!!!

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  • RoadMan94
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    Originally posted by Bipolar Hero
    Khan still butthurt
    Where do you sense any bitterness from khan here? Stop reaching. You only embarrass yourself.

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  • RoadMan94
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    7 days. The most important 7 days of Joshua life. Let’s see if he’s actually made for these nights or if he is going to choke, yet again. AJ needs this win probably more than any other boxer in the sport right now.

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  • Kris Silver
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    Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool

    If we are being serious here for a minute....

    Usyk gradually gained weight after he moved up to heavyweight, fight by fight, a few lbs here, a few lbs there. It seemed like a pretty natural progression for a guy who was making 200 pretty easily at cw

    221 vs Joshua 1 to me seemed like a pretty natural weight for the guy when in peak shape, 21 lbs North of what he weighed in (fairly comfortably at cw)

    He clearly lost a lot of size with the war situation, when he was IN Instagram for example he was looking quite gaunt, and I wouldny have been shocked if his weight was below 200lbs at that point.

    Now its likely that he would rehydrate, get back on a good diet and regain most of that size in a standard training camp, yes, however him being BIGGER than before is a major red flag, especially as, remember, this is boxing training NOT bodybuilding or mass gaining. In fact boxing training normally you LOSE weight.

    In my opinion Usyk is absoloutley not natural at this stage, just think logically about it. It wouldn't make any sense. To me it's obvious he's hopped on something to get back into shape quickly for the rematch and it's worked, really ****ing well.

    I'm expecting a brutal ko of Joshua.
    I'm a big AJ fan and an Usyk fan tbh, and have huge amounts of respect for his character and efforts in the Ukraine war.

    But he had 2 fights at HW, 215, 217, then 221 against AJ. A few lbs increase each time.

    He visibly and admittedly LOST lots of weight in the Ukraine war. So probably between 200-210 lbs.

    How on earth has he gotten to 236 lbs in a couple of months? You don't gain 15-20 lbs in a couple of months and still look shredded. Unfortunately it seems he's been on something. No doubt.
    Last edited by Kris Silver; 08-13-2022, 11:19 AM.

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk

    Only when he's fighting shot 38-41 year olds (4of6) with hardly any threat coming back.
    Deep down, you know you are talking nonsense.

    You dislike Joshua. He is still here, and he is one fight away from capturing the greatest Heavyweight win of the past 20 years.

    Joshua is not the most innately talented fighter, but you have to admit? He is maximizing his talents, the same way Chisora has etc.

    Wladimir Kilschko was in better condition for Joshua, than Fury. He had endured three back to back training camps, and had venom within him.

    Plus? I don't think he had the issue's outside the ring, he had against Tyson Fury. Issue's nobody wants to talk about, admittedly because Kiltschko did not make excuses. But it was a known fact that his woman was unwell, and their relationship strained at that stage.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-13-2022, 11:17 AM.

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  • NoConcoms
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    I don't buy into this stuff too much. It's just like AJ saying they were focusing more on speed for this fight, and saying they were going to be more aggressive.

    The bottom line is this; The whole fight will be dictated by one thing, and one thing only; And that is how well AJ reacts to getting hit flush by Usyk. The first time around, he got froze, and was VERY hesitant to walk right in.

    If Usyk has put on more weight, and done so correctly; AJ is either going to be running for dear life, or is going to have to engage in straight up fire fight.

    At this point, I'd say standing in the pocket and trading is his best bet. It cost him against Ruiz, and his chin is *highly* suspect. However, he does have huge punching power, and if he hits Usyk flush, he can knock him out with one shot.

    He's basically going to have to gamble that Usyk gets sloppy, and he lands a homerun shot. Which is highly unlikely.

    I'd favor Usyk about 80/20 over AJ this time around. AJ has a chance, but only a puncher chance.

    May the best man win.

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  • Citizen Koba
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    Originally posted by Bipolar Hero
    Khan still butthurt
    Missus Khan a little sore too, maybe, if the rumours be true.

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