So Shane Mosley is your new savior now?

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  • Del Coqui
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    #21
    so you think Floyd is the only fighter who takes **** in this forum? and he's not even fighting top ww competition, lets not be blind either.

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    • Al Haymon
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      #22
      Originally posted by PensionKiller
      Wouldn't it be easier to say the only way Floyld loses is to a middleweght when he fights natural 147, 154 fighters first? I'm not discrediting Floyld because he schooled Marquez, but surely you can't use a guy who has fought at 135 twice to say he will only lose to middleweights.
      Please remind yourself how many fights Manny Pacquiao had when he fought Oscar at 147.

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      • hammerhiem
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        #23
        SSM is Floyds saviour, it saves him from having the "chicken****" reputation for all time.

        If all teh floydstans want people to stop critising their fighter they should call for Floyd to figth SSM or Cotto.

        I would give the man all the props in teh world for beating those two.

        Hell I would even give him credit for beating Clottey, Berto, maybe even Collazo though that would be a step backwards.

        You see the pattern there? they are all WELTERWEIGHTS.

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        • hammerhiem
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          #24
          Originally posted by Al Haymon
          Please remind yourself how many fights Manny Pacquiao had when he fought Oscar at 147.
          Oscar was Shot and weight drained, pac get as little credit for beating oscars corpse as floyd does beating a career featherweight.

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #25
            Originally posted by PensionKiller
            What do you mean not exciting? Mosely goes for the KO and finish if he sees it. He doesn't back track and doesn't just box in the centre or move, he actually is a brawler/puncher.

            Marg would get schooled ebcause he aint gonna KO someone twice as fast as him in every department. That's speed in punches, footwork, head movement, and brain. Cotto got hurt because he gassed out and was on the run, but when he runs it's more like a man with a knife is after him. Floyd actually does it knowing where the ring is, what his opponent will do etc... Also Floyd has a good chin while Cotto has been hurt many times.
            Mosely v. Floyd is a good bout from a tactical perspective....for boxing people: Speed v. timing v. style v. smarts v. footwork v. age v. preparation, etc.... And, make no mistake, Mosely will go into the well for a KO if he senses it's the timely thing to do.

            But, what I'm talking about is a true welter weight who is willing to wade in with Floyd to break him down with power and perseverance. Shane won't do this to Floyd. In fact, IMO, once Shane feels Floyd's game....Floyd wins a fairly easy decision, maybe along the lines of 116-112. I doubt even so much as a bloody nose.

            NO....Margarito is the kind of matchup that Floyd needs to seal his legacy or lose it. Until we get that kind of fight, Floyd's legacy will remain high centered and in doubt.

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            • PensionKiller
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              #26
              Originally posted by Al Haymon
              Please remind yourself how many fights Manny Pacquiao had when he fought Oscar at 147.
              That is true, but I actually predicted a Manny win in that fight, that doesn't mean I won't put any Welter above Manny. Being P4P 1 doesn't always work out in reality if you face prime, young fighters with good skill at a higher weight.

              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              Mosely v. Floyd is a good bout from a tactical perspective....for boxing people: Speed v. timing v. style v. smarts v. footwork v. age v. preparation, etc.... And, make no mistake, Mosely will go into the well for a KO if he senses it's the timely thing to do.

              But, what I'm talking about is a true welter weight who is willing to wade in with Floyd to break him down with power and perseverance. Shane won't do this to Floyd. In fact, IMO, once Shane feels Floyd's game....Floyd wins a fairly easy decision, maybe along the lines of 116-112. I doubt even so much as a bloody nose.

              NO....Margarito is the kind of matchup that Floyd needs to seal his legacy or lose it. Until we get that kind of fight, Floyd's legacy will remain high centered and in doubt.
              Cotto sc****d by him with his running in the end. Shane TKO'd Marg. He's still got it, and yes styles make fights, but honestly Floyd defence is so much more superior to Cotto that I think Floyd will win by a UD. I mean williams beat him, Cotto showed him up in the first 7 rounds, Clottey had a good fight vs him. Yes they all have power and size, which Floyd doesn't have, but the difference in skill level is huge.

              Marg lost to Santos also hasn't he? I forgot. Marg's size without the speed will make it a huge UD. Floyd has the best eyes in the game

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #27
                Originally posted by PensionKiller
                That is true, but I actually predicted a Manny win in that fight, that doesn't mean I won't put any Welter above Manny. Being P4P 1 doesn't always work out in reality if you face prime, young fighters with good skill at a higher weight.



                Cotto sc****d by him with his running in the end. Shane TKO'd Marg. He's still got it, and yes styles make fights, but honestly Floyd defence is so much more superior to Cotto that I think Floyd will win by a UD. I mean williams beat him, Cotto showed him up in the first 7 rounds, Clottey had a good fight vs him. Yes they all have power and size, which Floyd doesn't have, but the difference in skill level is huge.

                Marg lost to Santos also hasn't he? I forgot. Marg's size without the speed will make it a huge UD. Floyd has the best eyes in the game
                Floyd is like a cat.. But, Margarito is like a pit bull. It's the perfect fight. AND, we'll never see that fight because Floyd will never offer to fight Marg..... TOO DANGEROUS.

                And, this should tell you something.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                  LMAO I am telling you it will NEVER EVER EVER be enough. I love the "ohh Shane confronting Floyd was more exciting than the fight" and "Shane had Floyd ****ting his pants AMIRITITEEEE." So this is exactly how it is going to happen:

                  When Floyd fights the winner of Pac-Cotto I GURAN****INGTEE that you say he is ducking Shane Mosley. I GURANTEE IT. Then after he WHOOPS on whoever he faces you will be calling for Shane(actually, so will I) and after he WHOOPS on Shane Mosley you will already have moved on to someone else. Look, I want the best fighters to fight the best, PERIOD. Anyone who doesn't can eat a ****, but if you are just looking for someone to beat Flyod you are bitchmade, that's some emotional female type ****. Floyd WHOOPED on JMM, so give credit where it is due. The only way he loses is if he fights a MW.
                  Like Jesus Christ isn't the savior of humanity, nobody is a savior of Boxing. All fans ask is for the best to fight the best, I think it's safe to say Floyd didn't fight the best fighter he could've fought lastnight. Did he REALLY need a tune up? Nahhhh...people are bamboozled so easily on this site lol. Thank the Universe for Free PPV
                  Last edited by Ravishing; 09-20-2009, 01:01 PM.

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                  • PensionKiller
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    Floyd is like a cat.. But, Margarito is like a pit bull. It's the perfect fight. AND, we'll never see that fight because Floyd will never offer to fight Marg..... TOO DANGEROUS.

                    And, this should tell you something.
                    I think Mosely has the tools to make the fight more competitive. Marg has the size, but he is quite slow. Pitballs don't always kill cats because cats can climb trees

                    I agree on the dangerous part. Marg, Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Pac should be on his resume. If he beats 3 out of those 5, I'll have him top 20 ATG. Heck I'm not even old enough to know much about ATG, but that's how I'll feel

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                    • Uturn
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                      #30
                      I just want to see Floyd take on a real Welterweight. Im not interested in watching blown up guys take on welterweights! Let's see a real clash at their natural weight.

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