Puerto Rico vs. Mexico

[Hurlex]

(from nicaragua):
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I have seen many fighter from PR that have been great...but usually and lately...what come from PR seems to be this breed of strong/hard hitting fighters....so they have power but lack heart or stamina sometimes and technique most often.So PR may deveope strong fighter but there not even close to the typs of fighters (with skills) the Mexico has produced,even now..with castillo...the tradition continues and will. So in general i think PR coomes ouyt with stronger (sometimes more exciting fighters) but the true skills of boxing,those you see in mexican fighters...what can i say,they have heart. But nothing can change the greats that PR has had in the past (the PR legends) the problem?PR has not had gret fighter like that in a while.Cintron,tito and cotto all lack something that past PR legends have had.

[IwatchBoxing]

(from nicaragua):
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I have seen many fighter from PR that have been great...but usually and lately...what come from PR seems to be this breed of strong/hard hitting fighters....so they have power but lack heart or stamina sometimes and technique most often.So PR may deveope strong fighter but there not even close to the typs of fighters (with skills) the Mexico has produced,even now..with castillo...the tradition continues and will. So in general i think PR coomes ouyt with stronger (sometimes more exciting fighters) but the true skills of boxing,those you see in mexican fighters...what can i say,they have heart. But nothing can change the greats that PR has had in the past (the PR legends) the problem?PR has not had gret fighter like that in a while.Cintron,tito and cotto all lack something that past PR legends have had.

Well lets blame Tyson for hitting so hard, Cotto and Cintron arent legends, their just PR fighters, Trinidad has heart, he never quit in the ring, never pads his record, and has gotten up from every knockdown he has, his father stopped the Hopkins fight, look at the ring legends, behind alot of them is a PR fighter.

[.::EnRiQuE::.]

it doesn't matter where ur from. it dont matter if ur from the north pole wat matters is the fighters themselves. now the name of this thread should have been which country has produced better fighters. not if ur from mexico or PR determines how good of a fighter u are

[soneropr]

Puerto Rico vs Mexico

Some important notes, just like to add my 2 cents here, pasted from wikipedia and other sources

Important chapters of Puerto Ricans vs. Mexicans in boxing

* Benitez-Palomino
o Benitez wins the world Welterweight title with a 15 round decision.
* Camacho-Limon
o Camacho conquers the world Jr. Lightweight title with a 5 round knockout
* Camacho-Ramirez
o Camacho conquers the world Lightweight title with a 12 round decision.
* Chávez-Camacho
o Chávez retains his world Jr. Welterweight title with a 12 round decision.
* Chávez-Rosario
o Chávez wins the world Lightweight title with an 11 round knockout
* Cuevas-Espada
o Cuevas beats Espada for the world Welterweight title, then successfully defends it three times against the same rival
* de la Hoya-Camacho
o de la Hoya beats Camacho by 12 round decision to retain the world welterweight title
* Escobar-Casanova
o Escobar becomes the first Puerto Rican world champion, winning the world Bantamweight title over Casanova by knockout in nine, in the first world title fight between a Puerto Rican and a Mexican
* Escobar-Quintana
o Escobar retains world Bantamweight title by knockout in round one.
* Gómez-Pintor
o Gómez retains the world Jr. Featherweight title with a 14 round knockout in what was described by Ring Magazine as the fight of the 80s at the Jr. Featherweight division
* Gómez-Zarate
o Gómez retains his world Jr. Featherweight title by knockout in round five
* Ramirez-Rosario
o In their first fight, Rosario conquers the vacant world Lightweight title with a 12 round decision. In their rematch, Ramirez wins the world title with a four round knockout
* Sanchez-Gómez
o Sanchez inflicts what many consider the greatest defeat in Puerto Rican boxing history, knocking Gómez out in eight rounds to retain the world Featherweight title
* Trinidad-de la Hoya
o Trinidad defeats de la Hoya by a 12 round decision to unify the world Welterweight title, in what many Puerto Ricans see as revenge for Gómez's loss at the hands of Sanchez
* Trinidad-Vargas
o Trinidad recovers from a knockdown and drops Vargas five times, unifying the world's Jr Middleweight title with a 12 round knockout

Let me add that at one time Puerto Rico had 5 champions in 5 different weight categories:

List of Boxing world champions from Puerto Rico

This list is from wikipedia:

* 1 Sixto Escobar(PR) 1934-06-06 Belts: 118

* 2 Carlos Ortiz(PR) 1959-06-12 Belts: 140 & 135

* 3 Jose Chegui Torres(PR) 1965-03-30 Belts: 175

* 4 Angel Espada(PR) 1975-06-28 Belts: 147

* 5 Alfredo Escalera(PR) 1975-07-05 Belts: 130

* 6 Samuel Serrano(PR) 1976-10-16 Belts: 130

* 7 Wilfredo Bénitez(PR) 1976-03-06 Belts: 140, 147 & 154

* 8 Esteban De Jesús(PR) 1976-05-08 Belts: 135

* 9 Wilfredo Gómez(PR) 1977-05-21 Belts: 122, 126 & 130

* 10 Julian Solís(PR) 1980-08-29 Belts: 118

* 11 Carlos De León(PR) 1980-11-25 Belts: 190

* 12 Ossie Ocasio(PR) 1982-02-13 Belts: 190

* 13 Juan LaPorte(PR) 1982-09-15 Belts: 126

* 14 Edwin Rosario(PR) 1983-05-01 Belts: 135 & 140

* 15 Héctor Camacho(PR) 1983-08-07 Belts: 130, 135 & 140

* 16 Mark Medal(PR) 1984-03-11 Belts: 154

* 17 Harry Arroyo(PR) 1984-04-15 Belts: 135

* 18 Víctor Callejas(PR) 1984-05-26 Belts: 122

* 19 Carlos Santos(PR) 1984-11-02 Belts: 154

* 20 Antonio Rivera(PR) 1986-08-30 Belts: 126

* 21 Wilfredo Vázquez(PR) 1987-10-04 Belts: 118, 122 & 126

* 22 José Cheíto Ruíz(PR) 1989-04-29 Belts: 115

* 23 John-John Molina(PR) 1989-04-29 Belts: 130

* 24 José De Jesús(PR) 1989-05-19 Belts: 108

* 25 Juan Nazario(PR) 1990-04-04 Belts: 135

* 26 Orlando Fernandez(PR) 1990-05-12 Belts: 122

* 27 Santos Cardona(PR) 1991-04-11 Belts: 147 & 154

* 28 Danny Garcia(PR) 1992-02-01 Belts: 160

* 29 Rafael Del Valle(PR) 1992-05-13 Belts: 118

* 30 Felix Camacho(PR) 1992-05-27 Belts: 122

* 31 Josue Camacho(PR) 1992-07-31 Belts: 108

* 32 Felix Trinidad(PR) 1993-06-19 Belts: 147, 154 & 160

* 33 Alex Sanchez(PR) 1993-12-22 Belts: 105

* 34 Jake Rodríguez(PR) 1994-02-13 Belts: 140

* 35 Daniel Jiménez(PR) 1993-06-09 Belts: 122 & 118

* 36 Sammy Fuentes(PR) 1994-11-07 Belts: 140

* 37 Angel Almena(PR) 1995-07-29 Belts: 115 & 112

* 38 Angel Manfredy(PR) 1995-11-18 Belts: 130

* 39 Frank Toledo(PR) 1996-06-09 Belts: 122 & 126

* 40 José A. Rivera(PR) 1997-04-25 Belts: 147

* 41 Lou del Valle(PR) 1997-09-20 Belts: 175

* 42 Eric Morel(PR) 1998-10-17 Belts: 115

* 43 Daniel Santos(PR) 2000-05-06 Belts: 147 & 154

* 44 Nelson Dieppa(PR) 2000-07-22 Belts: 108

* 45 John Ruiz(PR) 2001-03-03 Belts: Hvy

* 46 Aléx Trujillo(PR) 2001-05-05 Belts: 135 & 140

* 47 Ángel Chacón(PR) 2002-10-27 Belts: 126

* 48 Ivan Calderón(PR) 2003-05-03 Belts: 105 % 108

* 49 Alejandro Siaca(PR) 2004-05-05 Belts: 168

* 50 Miguel Cotto(PR) 2004-09-11 Belts: 140 & 147

* 51 Luis Collazo(PR) Belts: 147

* 52 Kermit Cintron(PR) Belts: 147

quick note before looking at mexican's boxers:

Puerto Rico is number 1 for boxers ratio wide. There are 215.3 white Americans. There are 40 million African Americans. There are 26.8 million Mexican Americans and 103 million Mexicans.

Puerto Rican is an island about 3.8 million people and in the United States there are under 4 million Puerto Ricans. Propotion wise, Puerto Rican stands superior in being a powerhouse of talent. Those three other groups are well respected and have credibility, but Puerto Rican stands number one if you want to look at talent production.

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World Champions who boxed out of Mexico

Articles in category "Mexican World Champions"

There are 106 articles in this category.
A

* Mauricio Aceves
* Jose Antonio Aguirre
* Romeo Anaya
* Lupe Aquino
* Jorge Arce
* Rene Arredondo
* Ricardo Arredondo
* Antonio Avelar

B

* Marco Antonio Barrera
* Cesar Bazan
* Jose Becerra
* Gabriel Bernal
* Julio Cesar Borboa
* Jose Luis Bueno
* Victor Burgos
* Isaac Bustos

C

* Yory Boy Campas
* Miguel Canto
* Edgar Cardenas
* Chango Carmona
* Cruz Carbajal
* Chucho Castillo
* Freddy Castillo
* José Luis Castillo
* Martin Castillo
* Hugo Cazares
* Jesús Chávez
* Julio Cesar Chavez
* Jesus Chong
* Melchor Cob Castro
* Pipino Cuevas

D

* Juan Diaz

E

* Guty Espadas
* Guty Espadas, Jr.
* Juan Jose Estrada


F

* Pedro Flores

G

* Alejandro Garcia
* Isidro Garcia
* Nestor Garza
* Humberto Gonzalez
* Alejandro Gonzalez
* Carlos Gonzalez
* Julio Gonzalez
* Miguel Angel Gonzalez
* Rodolfo Gonzalez
* Jhonny Gonzalez

H

* Ivan Hernandez
* Juan Herrera
* Rafael Herrera

J

* Javier Jauregui
* Alberto Jimenez

L

* Oscar Larios
* Genaro Leon
* Roberto Carlos Leyva
* Rafael Limon
* Human:8361
* Ricardo Lopez
* Rodolfo Lopez

M

* Raul (Raton) Macias
* Lupe Madera
* Antonio Margarito
* Juan Manuel Marquez
* Rafael Marquez
* Rodolfo Martinez
* Manuel Medina
* Juan Meza
* Cristian Mijares
* Fernando Montiel
* Erik Morales
* Diego Morales

O

* Ruben Olivares


O cont.

* Eric Ortiz

P

* Jorge Paez
* Raul Perez
* Isdro Perez
* Lupe Pintor
* Daniel Ponce de León

Q

* Jose Quirino

R

* Victor Rabanales
* Jose Luis Ramirez
* Gilberto Roman
* Omar Niño Romero

S

* Lauro Salas
* Vicente Saldivar
* Orlando Salido
* Ruben Sanchez Leon
* Clemente Sanchez
* Enrique Sanchez
* Salvador Sanchez
* Jose Armando Santa Cruz
* Battling Shaw
* Ulises Solis
* Edgar Sosa
* Cesar Soto

T

* Efren Torres
* German Torres

U

* Amado Ursua

V

* Jorge Vaca
* Gregorio Vargas
* Israel Vazquez
* Marcos Villasana

Z

* Alfonso Zamora
* Daniel Zaragoza
* Carlos Zarate
* Julio Zarate
* Juan Zurita


US- 275 Million
Mexico- 105 MIllion
PR- 7 Million (half on the island, half in the US)

total world champions
Mexico 106
Puerto Rico 52

you be the judge

[-Mbandit-]

Both countries have great fighters!

[NAPO]

at the beginning of this thread i saw alot of comments that piss me off but hey that nationality i only say that mexico and puerto rico are power house countries in boxing.

[-Mbandit-]

at the beginning of this thread i saw alot of comments that piss me off but hey that nationality i only say that mexico and puerto rico are power house countries in boxing.

I totally agree!

[kukuy77]

Mexican fighters toe to toe,theres nothing better in sports period.
P.R. has nothing to be ashamed of,in general they are a little dirtier and don't sustain the chin of stubborn aztec warriors.

[NAPO]

im sorry man but to those idiots who were dizzing pr's maybe iwatchboxing dosen't have alot of knowledge but i could **** on them about this topic i have the real list of championship fights between mexicans and pr's but hey this is an old ass thread no need to start flame not only that there should not be any fight about this.

and what u mean ashamed of...maybe im not full boricua but trust me what pr has done in boxing is amazing especially having a total of 8 millions on the island and the states. PR have done more than enough to proved they are one of the best countries in boxing.

same as mexico and u.s

[-Hyperion-]

****ing great countries, however i do think mexico's best fighters were better than puerto rico's...but thats just my opinion....