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  • Rodtang
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    #91
    Originally posted by OldTerry

    What I know is you are biased against Wilder and very much a fanboy for Joshua.
    I am a fan of Joshua. And I don't particularly like Wilder. And I would like to congratulate you sir and say, well done for spotting that. So why can't you also spot what's fact ( not bias) and that is, that Joshua brings the bag. I'm left scratching my head at that one lol. But if you do start to realise the facts, let me know, and I'll congratulate you again. I'm not an unreasonable guy.

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    • OldTerry
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      #92
      Originally posted by REDEEMER
      Ortiz fought Wilder for 500 K then I think 1.5 million the second time

      Ortiz was ultimately offered 7 million for A.J . The first time he would have made over 2 million back in 2017 .

      A.J third highest payday was after a loss against Ruiz and sold out MSG in the process while Wilder is not a generator without a known name attached to him and has poor PPV events against Ortiz , you know as well as I do if the Helenius PPV is a success it’s a pretty good shock because no one really expects it to .


      You can’t compare where A.J is now or ever was the difference in generating money isn’t even in the same ballpark .
      I can't argue against your logic as Joshua is far more popular than Wilder. Still, I believe a Wilder Joshua fight brings more to the table for Joshua than any other fight other than say Joshua against Usyk or Fury. It is my firm belief that Wilder's popularity will have nothing to do with his effectiveness against Joshua.

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        #93
        Originally posted by OldTerry

        I can't argue against your logic as Joshua is far more popular than Wilder. Still, I believe a Wilder Joshua fight brings more to the table for Joshua than any other fight other than say Joshua against Usyk or Fury. It is my firm belief that Wilder's popularity will have nothing to do with his effectiveness against Joshua.
        Joshua vs Wilder is the biggest fight strictly on styles . But I caution Wilders boxing ability makes him off paper a big under dog but both punchers so it’s a spectacle .

        When A.J wins on Saturday I guess the views will shift because people just can’t keep a steady perspective,but the perspective hasn’t actually changed other then A.J has become more dangerous and Wilder on the decline .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-16-2022, 01:21 AM.

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          #94
          Lets get this straight about the 120 million offer.

          He blessed Fury by not taking the AJ offer for 4 fights
          Good things come to those who wait
          AJ is a slave
          Kings don't take Peasant Money.

          Worst case this clown gets the WBC belt back by default.

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          • OldTerry
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            #95
            Originally posted by greeneye99

            Deontay Wilder is also a two time loser
            You musta forgot? Ha
            Aj the Bum is fighting in huge $$ event in Saudi while..
            Deontay Wilder is fighting Robert Helenius with 3 losses on Ppv at the Barclay's center
            After the AJ & Deontay Fights
            Be fair
            Let's compare the PPV numbers
            I can't wait You'll disappear for a year just like Wilder
            Lololololol
            Two-time loser is correcy, but it was to the same man both times. It only proves that Wilder can't beat Fury.

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              #96
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              Ortiz fought Wilder for 500 K then I think 1.5 million the second time

              Ortiz was ultimately offered 7 million for A.J . The first time he would have made over 2 million back in 2017 .

              A.J third highest payday was after a loss against Ruiz and sold out MSG in the process while Wilder is not a generator without a known name attached to him and has poor PPV events against Ortiz , you know as well as I do if the Helenius PPV is a success it’s a pretty good shock because no one really expects it to .


              You can’t compare where A.J is now or ever was the difference in generating money isn’t even in the same ballpark .
              That is true although it doesn't guarantee AJ a victory in the ring.

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                #97
                Originally posted by OldTerry

                That is true although it doesn't guarantee AJ a victory in the ring.
                Yes but splits are ultimately determined who generates more money unless someone is holding a title or titles .

                Who’s opinions who wins is irrelevant it’s who can bring what to the negotiating table .

                A.J is a massive draw there is just no way around that ,it’s a fact . Without an A.J the division doesn’t get the jump start he himself created . There’s A.J then the rest as far as trying to do big numbers , yes Fury and Whyte sold out Wembley but that’s because A.J made it popular again.

                A.J vs Fury triples that if they could get a venue that big and if Wilder can avoid a defeat and fight A.J at some point that breaks records .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-16-2022, 01:55 PM.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by OldTerry

                  Two-time loser is correcy, but it was to the same man both times. It only proves that Wilder can't beat Fury.
                  What?
                  Does it matter if AJ loss to 2 different boxers But Wilder only loss twice to one boxer?
                  Duh
                  All i see is 2 losses on both Wilder and AJ Boxing records
                  Btw
                  What does Correcy mean?
                  Lol

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                  • OldTerry
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by greeneye99

                    What?
                    Does it matter if AJ loss to 2 different boxers But Wilder only loss twice to one boxer?
                    Duh
                    All i see is 2 losses on both Wilder and AJ Boxing records
                    Btw
                    What does Correcy mean?
                    Lol
                    Of course, it makes a difference. It is wise to dig into the records and think a bit. An example is an up-and-coming fighter whose record is 20 and 0 with 19 KOs. The record suggests this is a great fighter, but is he really? Probably not, unless all his fights were against top level talent.

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                    • greeneye99
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by OldTerry

                      Of course, it makes a difference. It is wise to dig into the records and think a bit. An example is an up-and-coming fighter whose record is 20 and 0 with 19 KOs. The record suggests this is a great fighter, but is he really? Probably not, unless all his fights were against top level talent.
                      All I see is two HW Champions with 2 losses each on their Boxing records
                      Btw
                      You still haven't explained what is Correcy means?
                      Lol

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