Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager: A Joshua Fight is Enormous Even If He Loses To Usyk

[OldTerry]

It's a good fight. Joshua will be up for it. We'll all be up for it. There's no denying that. But are they really after it. When Wilder and Finkel start making crazy pay demands, we'll know their up to old tricks. They'd both be without titles. So it comes down to the bag. Joshua brings the bag. What does Wilder bring? So they better be reasonable.

50/50 is reasonable. Probably not your viewpoint, but it is mine.

[REDEEMER]

Deontay Wilder is also a two time loser
You musta forgot? Ha
Aj the Bum is fighting in huge $$ event in Saudi while..
Deontay Wilder is fighting Robert Helenius with 3 losses on Ppv at the Barclay's center
After the AJ & Deontay Fights
Be fair
Let's compare the PPV numbers
I can't wait You'll disappear for a year just like Wilder
Lololololol

It never ceases to amaze me on here how posters are still continuing to place Wilder as an A.J level draw even after he lost his belt which was the only bargaining chip he had to his name . Smh

Saudi shelled out well over 100 million and also built an entire arena with air conditioning for this event . Saudi has turned down Arum not long ago which is why he’s salty towards anything concerning Hearn ,there’s levels to being a draw the fact Wilder isn’t even a successful PPV fighter without Fury and you still have some chilling that is bizarre .

This fight is also PPV so it might break some records ,it’s A.Js first big event outside the DAZN non PPV . The numbers won’t be close , Helenius vs Wilder doesn’t put them on the same map as Usyk vs A.J. That’s just crazy talk like some trying to justify Fury vs Chisora .

[Rodtang]

50/50 is reasonable. Probably not your viewpoint, but it is mine.

Eh no lol.

[rickJen]

That's true. DAZN, just like any startup company in the content providing business, spend billions of dollars in its initial phase.

So when they were offering astronomical sums, Finkel/Haymon/Espinoza mistakenly saw it as an indication of the size of the fight. They thought the Mike Tyson era is back.

It was silly because those offers didn't have anything to do with the size. DAZN was into building its subscribers base. Don't know how you can translate that to PPV numbers.


In the end, Espinoza got it and had had enough of overpaying Wilder and his opponents; withdrew their rights on the Wilder fights and gave them to FOX, like the Wilder vs Ortiz 2.

You hit the head on the nail....

Just wondering if Espinoza is back on board on these Wilder fights.
Fox took over, if I'm not mistaken.

[MoneyKing]

Wilder is that exactly a 2 time trampy bummy loser lol. You seen his match stick legs lol?
His fanboy girl community members have a sick obsession with Tyson Fury that's for sure.

WIlder's fruity g*y lo*er Tay thinks Wilder is a massive ppv draw? lol seriously take that red wedding dress back to the shop Tay.

Deep down they don't care about Wilder they care about $$$$$$$$$.

Wilder vs Helenius will do 5k ppv buys lol.

[OldTerry]

Eh no lol.

What does Joshua bring to the table? He's lost to two different men; one was a blown-up cruiserweight and the other was overweight and relatively unknown.

[TheCell8]

A fight with Joshua is a big fight for anyone.

[Rodtang]

What does Joshua bring to the table? He's lost to two different men; one was a blown-up cruiserweight and the other was overweight and relatively unknown.

That's irrelevant. He brings the bag. Wilder will be fighting Helenius next. Does Helenius bring the bag? No. If Joshua fights Helenius it's worth way more than Wilder, Helenius. That's the difference. Joshua brings the bag. You all know I'm right.

[REDEEMER]

What does Joshua bring to the table? He's lost to two different men; one was a blown-up cruiserweight and the other was overweight and relatively unknown.

Ortiz fought Wilder for 500 K then I think 1.5 million the second time

Ortiz was ultimately offered 7 million for A.J . The first time he would have made over 2 million back in 2017 .

A.J third highest payday was after a loss against Ruiz and sold out MSG in the process while Wilder is not a generator without a known name attached to him and has poor PPV events against Ortiz , you know as well as I do if the Helenius PPV is a success it’s a pretty good shock because no one really expects it to .


You can’t compare where A.J is now or ever was the difference in generating money isn’t even in the same ballpark .

[OldTerry]

That's irrelevant. He brings the bag. Wilder will be fighting Helenius next. Does Helenius bring the bag? No. If Joshua fights Helenius it's worth way more than Wilder, Helenius. That's the difference. Joshua brings the bag. You all know I'm right.

What I know is you are biased against Wilder and very much a fanboy for Joshua.