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  • Rbs3rd
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    #11
    Some of yall are dumb as hell.

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    • boxing IQ
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      #12
      Great insights from Bread. Not a fan of the mythical match ups, but he is responding to the emails.

      Can only laugh at people questioning Wilder's current and HOF status.

      Even when they hear it from Bread himself lol.


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      • Atletisock
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        #13
        Good to see Assholo back. Not as biased as usual though, which was disappointing.

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        • Blackstarr
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          #14
          Originally posted by boxing IQ
          Great insights from Bread. Not a fan of the mythical match ups, but he is responding to the emails.

          Can only laugh at people questioning Wilder's current and HOF status.

          Even when they hear it from Bread himself lol.


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          So because Breadman says so, it must be true and taken as gospel? Or is it because his isolated view aligns with your own?

          Look at The Ring, Boxrec, TBRB, ESPN and just about every other body with ranking system. All of them have Wilder at no.3 at best, with half having him even lower at no.4 behind AJ.

          Wilder has never been consensus no.2, never mind no.1. He has also only beaten one top-5 HW, and maybe just one other top-10 at best in over 40 fights, and was destroyed twice by the only Top-3 HW he as faced. That gives him a case for HOF does it?

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          • Lionbreech
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            #15
            It's interesting to me the way some like to downgrade Anthony Joshua because of his two losses. He has by far the best resume between the trio of AJ , Fury and Wilder yet he is the most dissed by far of the three. The only real heavyweight of note Fury beat was Wilder until he KO'd Dillian White recently. He beat Cunningham early on who he outweighed by 60 lbs. by leaning on him all fight until Cunningham was so exhausted he collapsed. Wilder also beat only one heavyweight of note Luis Ortiz twice. In both fights Ortiz was winning easily before getting caught. Joshua has beaten Klitschko, Dillian White , Prince Charles Martin whose belt he took , Parker still a top heavyweight and Ruiz in the rematch , Povetkin , Pulev both top contenders. Ruiz KO'd Joshua because he caught him , concussed him and Joshua was unable to recover. Joshua chose to box Usyk and Usyk was too elusive and he was unable to square him up as a boxer. If Joshua had gone after him as he did with most of the aforementioned it would have been lights out for Usyk. I would like to remind fans that Lennox Lewis considered by most the best English heavyweight ever and one of the top heavyweights in history was knocked out twice , his only two losses to Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman. Knocked out cold by both men neither who is in the pantheon of great fighters in any way , shape or form. Stop downgrading a guy who has fought top competition throughout his career and beaten a lot of good fighters along the way. Fury , Wilder neither of them wanted any parts of AJ at any time although Fury sure talked and talks a lot of trash.

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              #16
              Originally posted by peplz
              Spence has three belts to Crawfords one. He sells more PPV and bigger gates.
              Both of those are unassailable. This might be a 50/50 fight in the ring but when it comes to the purse split Errol Spence has to get the bigger chunk. He earned it.

              If Crawford refuses to budge on that then he is ducking the fight by pricing himself out.


              Originally posted by Lionbreech
              It's interesting to me the way some like to downgrade Anthony Joshua because of his two losses. He has by far the best resume between the trio of AJ , Fury and Wilder yet he is the most dissed by far of the three. The only real heavyweight of note Fury beat was Wilder until he KO'd Dillian White recently. He beat Cunningham early on who he outweighed by 60 lbs. by leaning on him all fight until Cunningham was so exhausted he collapsed.
              You're forgetting that it was Tyson Fury who ended the Klitscko era. Not Joshua.

              And Fury never lost those belts in the ring. He is the real heavyweight champion of the world. Deontay Wilder's only losses have come to the Gypsy King so he has a case for being the #2 heavyweight in the world.

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              • peplz
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                #17
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                Both of those are unassailable. This might be a 50/50 fight in the ring but when it comes to the purse split Errol Spence has to get the bigger chunk. He earned it.

                If Crawford refuses to budge on that then he is ducking the fight by pricing himself out.




                You're forgetting that it was Tyson Fury who ended the Klitscko era. Not Joshua.

                And Fury never lost those belts in the ring. He is the real heavyweight champion of the world. Deontay Wilder's only losses have come to the Gypsy King so he has a case for being the #2 heavyweight in the world.
                Okay show me the official PPV numbers on Spence’s fights. I’ve scoured the internet and have yet to see any.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by peplz
                  Okay show me the official PPV numbers on Spence’s fights. I’ve scoured the internet and have yet to see any.
                  Terence Crawford's own promoter said that he lost money on Crawford's fights. He is without question the financial B-side here.

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                  • peplz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                    Terence Crawford's own promoter said that he lost money on Crawford's fights. He is without question the financial B-side here.
                    I’m questioning the validity of Spence’s unofficial PPV numbers which also brings into question the validity of his A-Side super star primadonna status. Bob Arum is a racist promoter and well known admitted liar. I question the validity of anything he says.

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