Some freakish looking heavyweights these days.

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Usyk is the only heavyweight that looks the part. For years 6'3" was regarded as the ideal height of a heavyweight to allow proper balance, speed and endurance. His weight is good too. Enough to sting any heavyweight and not too much to retain stamina and speed.

Fury. He looks like a retired NBA player who has been eating pizza and drinking beer instead of playing ball. How anyone outside of the boxing world would believe what he has done in the ring.
Wilder. He looks like his arms are stronger than his legs. Who would guess he is any kind of athlete with those legs.
Joshua. He looks like he is carrying too much muscle to be a boxer. The fighters in the old days didn't look that way for a reason.
Ruiz. The guy looks like he won't last past the fourth round without getting gassed.

Yet somehow they all seem to do what it takes to be at the top one time or another. Either the division has been so sad the recent years or these fighters are exceptional athletes with tremendous determination.

[YGriffith]

Fat andy ruiz has some of the fastest hands at heavyweight in history, and he weighs 260+, he looks like the flash compared to most all time greats, and most weighed around 220 or less.

Frail looking around 200 lbs deontay wilder knocks out people outweighing him by 40+ lbs with a single perfectly placed shot, we've never seen a george foreman dish one punch kos on the opponents he outweighed much less a guy that's 40 lbs heavier.

as much as people like to chit or Joshua, for a guy that big and carries that much excess muscle at such low body fat, he has better combinations and faster hands than most all time greats.

No need for explanations for tyson fury.

Usyk is the same size as George Foreman and yet GF looks and moves like a 300 lbs guy.


The athleticism these guys have, and the average modern boxer has is much higher than most old ATG.

[Good ol' Douglas]

Fat andy ruiz has some of the fastest hands at heavyweight in history, and he weighs 260+, he looks like the flash compared to most all time greats, and most weighed around 220 or less.

Frail looking around 200 lbs deontay wilder knocks out people outweighing him by 40+ lbs with a single perfectly placed shot, we've never seen a george foreman dish one punch kos on the opponents he outweighed much less a guy that's 40 lbs heavier.

as much as people like to chit or Joshua, for a guy that big and carries that much excess muscle at such low body fat, he has better combinations and faster hands than most all time greats.

No need for explanations for tyson fury.

Usyk is the same size as George Foreman and yet GF looks and moves like a 300 lbs guy.


The athleticism these guys have, and the average modern boxer has is much higher than most old ATG.

There is nothing more hilarious than watching idiots on this forum do the equivalent of complaining about modern super-heavyweights being slower than the blown-up MWs and LHWs of old.

This is the best era of HW boxing ever. Anybody who does not get this knows **** all about boxing.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fat andy ruiz has some of the fastest hands at heavyweight in history, and he weighs 260+, he looks like the flash compared to most all time greats, and most weighed around 220 or less.

Frail looking around 200 lbs deontay wilder knocks out people outweighing him by 40+ lbs with a single perfectly placed shot, we've never seen a george foreman dish one punch kos on the opponents he outweighed much less a guy that's 40 lbs heavier.

as much as people like to chit or Joshua, for a guy that big and carries that much excess muscle at such low body fat, he has better combinations and faster hands than most all time greats.

No need for explanations for tyson fury.

Usyk is the same size as George Foreman and yet GF looks and moves like a 300 lbs guy.


The athleticism these guys have, and the average modern boxer has is much higher than most old ATG.

I don't think Usyk was the same size as George Foreman. Usyk has had to pump himself up to 215-220 pounds.

George Foreman and many of the old school fighters, were boiling down to fight weight. That was the culture back then.

Take all the strength and conditioning and supplements away from Usyk, and he is not a solid heavyweight.

But anyway, yes regardless Usyk is a top Athlete.

Fighters trained more to fight in the past era's, so I honestly think this produced a more well rounded physique.

These days you may get heavyweights who think? If I can just bulk myself up, I will be a better fighter. So many fighters all have bought into this body building hype. Dillian Whyte after a few years of adopting this training philosophy could not move, Tyson Fury's condition and endurance is a tad overrated if people are honest? Fury has been all over the place in his last two fights 'Especially against Wilder'.

Wilder bought into this hype, and he could not cope with the extra bulk. He was not functional at the weight, and all of his natural innate abilities seemed to decrease. His punching power seemed to go backwards, and speed. Although he was marginally stronger, in terms of brute strength 'And this did help him vs Fury'.

But in order to beat Fury, he needed more than just brute strength. Even still he was not strong enough, nowhere near strong enough.

I think many Heavyweights these days, genuinely believe they are super heavyweights. When in reality, they are out of condition. Very few Super Heavyweights are solid at the weight, Tyson Fury is really when he is solid? A 250 pound fighter.

I have no idea what some people are talking about on this thread. The Heavyweights of the 70's, at times appeared to fight like big middle Weights.

The last real Heavyweight fights I saw with that type of intensity was? The opening rounds of Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield II.

The conditioning, athleticism of today's heavyweights are vastly overrated.

The Heavyweight Division is still my favorite Division. And it is still boxing competition, at his raw best. Reason being, because the fighters are not weight draining themselves. And even if they are not super great athletes, they can all train to the best of their abilities. No catch weights, no weigh draining, just open class competition 'It is the Ultimate Division'.

[YGriffith]

I don't think Usyk was the same size as George Foreman. Usyk has had to pump himself up to 215-220 pounds.

George Foreman and many of the old school fighters, were boiling down to fight weight. That was the culture back then.

Take all the strength and conditioning and supplements away from Usyk, and he is not a solid heavyweight.

But anyway, yes regardless Usyk is a top Athlete.

Usyk was cutting weight to get to 200 though too, and GF won gold at 200lbs, same as usyk but overall usyk was much leaner.

This modern rehydration thing allows fighters nowadays to pick up belts at lower weights, which i believe is the best move tbh.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Usyk was cutting weight to get to 200 though too, and GF won gold at 200lbs, same as usyk but overall usyk was much leaner.

This modern rehydration thing allows fighters nowadays to pick up belts at lower weights, which i believe is the best move tbh.

I don't think it is a good move, because it dilutes the competition.

In reality? It is only the Heavyweight Division where we know 'Fighters are not weight draining themselves, or training at sub optimal levels'.

There is not a year that goes by, were fighters in the lower weight divisions after the fight has happened? Complain about making the weight, or uses that as a excuse.

The Heavyweight Division is boxing competition at its best. Whether the Heavyweights are talented or not, at least we know what we are seeing is real competition.

I personally think they need to bring back the same day weigh in rule, in the lower weight divisions. That would really shake things up, and obliterate the culture of weight draining.

Some fighters still may try and maintain he culture, but they will find out the hard way? That it is not a good idea.

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Fury ---> Fat and bellied slick super heavyweight. Most talented and physically gifted HW. Moves like SMW. The H2H GOAT.

Joshua ---> Bodybuilder with shıt cardio. Thor beats that bum.

Wilder ---> Upgraded skinny cruiserweight who is unskilled and big dosser. Street brawler. Former basketballer.

Usyk ---> Ukrainian snake who has overrated skills. Chisora won 4-5 rounds. Bodybuilder baited and outboxed this bum in first part of the fight. Then, made this bum miss badly last seconds of the fight.

Ruiz ---> Taco merchant on streets of Mexico. He lost lots of weights but still bum. Reynoso ruined him.

[YGriffith]

I don't think it is a good move, because it dilutes the competition.

In reality? It is only the Heavyweight Division where we know 'Fighters are not weight draining themselves, or training at sub optimal levels'.

There is not a year that goes by, were fighters in the lower weight divisions after the fight has happened? Complain about making the weight, or uses that as a excuse.

The Heavyweight Division is boxing competition at its best. Whether the Heavyweights are talented or not, at least we know what we are seeing is real competition.

I personally think they need to bring back the same day weigh in rule, in the lower weight divisions. That would really shake things up, and obliterate the culture of weight draining.

Some fighters still may try and maintain he culture, but they will find out the hard way? That it is not a good idea.

No dont get me wrong there's nothing like the heavyweight belt, but for those that can capture both i think it's better, since for one the way to the belt is safer that way, because at heavyweight everyone is one punch away from losing, and second of all, it will help his legacy, he moved up and beat the man, 2 division champ....

for example look at what a dillian whyte had to go through to get a shot at the title only to end up losing, where as if he stayed in his 220 shape, he could've maybe picked a title at cruiserweight then get a big heavyweight fight, then whether he won or not, he already was a champion, just not the heavyweight champion.

I would've preferred if we just stuck to the olympic divisions, but sincr it's not, boxers should take advantage of it and build the best career they could get.