Oscar says Ryan is equal A-Side. Floyd says no, Tank is the A-Side.

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #61
    Originally posted by War Room

    lol 9,000,000 people.

    How many ppv's is Jake Paul selling?

    Thought so.
    Are you suggesting that all 9 million Instagram followers of Garcia will pay to see him fight? How do you know that?

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    • SUBZER0ED
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      #62
      Originally posted by War Room

      However true, Ryan has 9 million instagram followers and considering Jake Paul is massive on social media, we've seen him pull big numbers using social media metrics. Deductive reasoning states that Garcia will move the needle quite a bit and Espinoza said with them together they can do over 400k - 650k.

      5:10 of video =--->
      https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...a-vs-tank-done
      Awarding the same A side status to a fighter who has zero titles and zero PPVs, as an accomplished fighter with multiple championships in three divisions, solely based on his Instagram following is ludicrous.

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      • War Room
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        #63
        Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

        Are you suggesting that all 9 million Instagram followers of Garcia will pay to see him fight? How do you know that?
        Why would you remotely say I'm suggesting ALL when there is zero implication? 100% hyperbole tbh, facts. If he could even get 4% to purchase, it would dwarf anything close to a Stank ppvb.

        Originally posted by SUBZER0ED

        Awarding the same A side status to a fighter who has zero titles and zero PPVs, as an accomplished fighter with multiple championships in three divisions, solely based on his Instagram following is ludicrous.
        You keep putting words in my mouth, can you like kinda stop already? Espinoza is on record throwing numbers out who's on Tanks side.

        Again, Jake Paul is doing ppv #'s so social media is a valid weight in negotiations when we're talking mega-millions in followers. If you can't see that, you might want to start thinking outside of the box.

        Why do you think YouTube and Instagram pay users based on followers? Because it brings REVENUE.

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        • just the facts
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          #64
          Originally posted by War Room

          Why would you remotely say I'm suggesting ALL when there is zero implication? 100% hyperbole tbh, facts. If he could even get 4% to purchase, it would dwarf anything close to a Stank ppvb.



          You keep putting words in my mouth, can you like kinda stop already? Espinoza is on record throwing numbers out who's on Tanks side.

          Again, Jake Paul is doing ppv #'s so social media is a valid weight in negotiations when we're talking mega-millions in followers. If you can't see that, you might want to start thinking outside of the box.

          Why do you think YouTube and Instagram pay users based on followers? Because it brings REVENUE.
          Does anyone give any credibility to the opinion of this douche bag?

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          • Hustle
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            #65
            Originally posted by tritium_arma
            Reason PBC want to avoid joint PPV is because they'll have to reveal Tank's shockingly low actual PPV numbers if they do. It's one thing for Leonard to argue with fans on twitter, it's another when it's an actual deal.
            The ppv numbers don't even matter.

            Tank does higher gates than Ryan. Those numbers are public knowledge

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            • KidneyShot
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              #66
              What's so hard to just do 50/50. Winner will then show who's the true A-side.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #67
                Originally posted by tritium_arma
                Reason PBC want to avoid joint PPV is because they'll have to reveal Tank's shockingly low actual PPV numbers if they do. It's one thing for Leonard to argue with fans on twitter, it's another when it's an actual deal.
                If Tank’s numbers are fake or low, why is Ryan calling him out and not the bigger earners at 135?

                I can’t get anyone that believes the numbers are false to answer this. Will you?

                I ask because It doesn’t make sense that Ryan and Fishnets would waste so much time on him.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #68
                  To be fair with all the illegal streaming available I doubt any PPV will be successful.

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                  • Regge
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                    #69
                    Ryan is A side he's known by non boxing fans too while Tank isnt.

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                    • tritium_arma
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      If Tank’s numbers are fake or low, why is Ryan calling him out and not the bigger earners at 135?

                      I can’t get anyone that believes the numbers are false to answer this. Will you?

                      I ask because It doesn’t make sense that Ryan and Fishnets would waste so much time on him.
                      Easy, does Tank do PPV buys? Yes. Does it do a lot of PPV buys? We don't know because ole Leonard never releases any numbers. He'll just say on twitter, "No it didnt do that low." At least with Eddie he'll admit the numbers low or not for PPV buys like he did with Canelo Bivol. But a low PPV seller can still make big PPV numbers with the right opponent like 97K Golovkin and 1 million with Canelo.

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