Comments Thread For: Nelson on Joshua: Beating Usyk is Not Impossible Ask, But It's a Tough Ask

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  • tritium_arma
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    #21
    Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake

    ROFL .. Crack is still destorying the communities...
    Not my words, Nelson's.

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    • PRINCEKOOL
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      #22
      Until the fight happens, I think pundits, boxers, boxing fans are all going to be saying the same thing.

      I personally think Joshua is going to win the rematch. But not because he is some formidable fighter himself.

      This fight vs Usyk is being made more difficult for Joshua, because he lacks the ability to fight a good big man styled fight.

      In all honesty, there is no way a fighter with Usyk's dimensions or even abilities would out box Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Kiltschko.

      Joshua is having to fight Usyk as if he was not a super heavyweight. But Joshua's innate abilities actually have never been his Jab, his ability to tie a fighter up or wrestle on the inside, or even his boxing skills.

      Joshua's number 1 ability, has always been his mid-range offense and combination punch ability. Joshua for sometime has not even embraced this, but now in order to win this rematch 'That is precisely what he has to do'.


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        #23
        Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool

        Something that struck me during the run up to the Usyk fight, was the lack of perceived threat around Usyk.

        There was no tension in the air, it was as though
        ​​​​​​... This was a "routine" defence for Joshua, another Pulev or dare I say it, and other Ruiz 1.

        Joshua even let Usyk pose with the belts, just like Ruiz 1, everyone had a good laugh, high fived, smiles all around.

        Joshua is a good fighter, but not good enough to take any of these guys lightly, least of all a fighter of Usyk's calibre.

        Now they know exactly how dangerous this guy is, I'm curious to see the reaction from Joshua.
        I don't know why they didn't perceive him as a threat. I guess they wanted a different fight and this fight had to be done to move on.

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          #24
          Originally posted by PrimadonnaKool

          I don't see them as the same type of thing.

          Bivol totally neutralised a confident, prime canelo.

          I think Joshua fought a poor tactical fight, he can change certain things, Canelo fought how canelo fights vs Bivol, what can he change?
          But i think Nelo will watch the tape of his loss to Bivol and make adjustments in his training and you will see the results in the rematch. Nelo was better in the rematch with GGG. Nelos not had a lot of rematches so we dont know how he reacts.
          Last edited by hugh grant; 07-28-2022, 01:25 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Fact
            AJ can win by robbery on cards, Hearn is desperate !!
            He'll need more than the 4 round pre fight fill Eddie got Canelo.

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              #26
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              Until the fight happens, I think pundits, boxers, boxing fans are all going to be saying the same thing.

              I personally think Joshua is going to win the rematch. But not because he is some formidable fighter himself.

              This fight vs Usyk is being made more difficult for Joshua, because he lacks the ability to fight a good big man styled fight.

              In all honesty, there is no way a fighter with Usyk's dimensions or even abilities would out box Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Kiltschko.

              Joshua is having to fight Usyk as if he was not a super heavyweight. But Joshua's innate abilities actually have never been his Jab, his ability to tie a fighter up or wrestle on the inside, or even his boxing skills.

              Joshua's number 1 ability, has always been his mid-range offense and combination punch ability. Joshua for sometime has not even embraced this, but now in order to win this rematch 'That is precisely what he has to do'.

              You obviously didn't read about Usyk being in camp for Wlad & making him look so bad sparring Usyk got kicked out of camp.

              Look it up.

              & watch fight 1 mate, the gap in speed, movement & general iq was massive, Usyk was in Ajs range, Aj didn't have a scooby what to do with a game prime moving target that wasn't the shot slow static 38-41 year olds (4of6) Ajs used to fighting.

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              • hugh grant
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                #27
                An impossible task to beat Usyk, of course its not impossible its silly even to suggest it.Its embarrassing to even utter the words. As if somehow just cos you win first fight, the second is a foregone conclusion. Like we are supposed to believe just cos Floyd beat Nelo in first fight hed win rematch? More like you use a comfortable win as an excuse not to give a rematch.
                Who wins a first fight has no influence or bearing on what happens in a 2nd fight. It only influences who you think might win 2nd fight.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 08-11-2022, 10:16 AM.

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                • PRINCEKOOL
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sayithowitisuk

                  You obviously didn't read about Usyk being in camp for Wlad & making him look so bad sparring Usyk got kicked out of camp.

                  Look it up.

                  & watch fight 1 mate, the gap in speed, movement & general iq was massive, Usyk was in Ajs range, Aj didn't have a scooby what to do with a game prime moving target that wasn't the shot slow static 38-41 year olds (4of6) Ajs used to fighting.
                  I know about that, you cannot catch me out. But it is a completely pointless mention.

                  How many sparring partners did Kiltschko have? And if you know boxing, you know there are always specific instructions and requirements for sparring partners.

                  Tyson Fury has been battered in sparring by Anthony Joshua. And this was a Joshua at the beginning of his career.

                  The first fight between Usyk & Joshua was a competitive fight mate, did you see the state of Usyk after the fight? He was hit in most of the rounds. And if you take away the 12th round, it was Joshua who inflicted more damage on Uysk.

                  The assault Usyk launched on Joshua in the 12th round is overrated. It looks more dramatic due to Joshua's fatigue, even still he invaded about 90% of the punches.

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