Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson Uncertain If He'll Remain At 130 Pounds After Conceicao Fight

[Jdasilva2012]

Stevenson can't understimate Robson Conceicao.

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Errol was not a champion and Davis was not a big name, no PPVs yet, when they went overseas, which is entirely the point. PBC protection has been in full effect since those 5 years ago.

Jared Anderson is not a known drug cheat and you never mentioned the type of fighter.

You're the one who has moved the goal posts. You said name a fighter. I said Beterbiev and Gvozydk. Then you say name an American fighter. I said Haney. Then you said oh that doesn't count. Should Spence's fight not count since his first 15 fights were with Goldenboy?

Ah, Jared Anderson. I was reading too fast and mistook that for Jarrell Miller. My fault.

Ok, that's one in your favor. Arum will send a prospect with 11 fights abroad.

And he'll risk women boxers too, as well as foreign boxers who aren't big draws, and a guy in Haney that wasn't with the company until they coukd bend him over a barrel to accept short money and a horrible rematch clause.

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You said I literally couldn't name another one. I did and now you're moving the goalposts?

Errol Spence and Gervonta Davis went overseas. Those are major champions and names in the sport. Don't compare that to a woman boxer and a disgraced drug cheat.

Errol was not a champion and Davis was not a big name, no PPVs yet, when they went overseas, which is entirely the point. PBC protection has been in full effect since those 5 years ago.

Jared Anderson is not a known drug cheat and you never mentioned the type of fighter.

You're the one who has moved the goal posts. You said name a fighter. I said Beterbiev and Gvozydk. Then you say name an American fighter. I said Haney. Then you said oh that doesn't count. Should Spence's fight not count since his first 15 fights were with Goldenboy?

[MONGOOSE66]

Shakur isn’t a big man. Ive see. Him best to Haney and Haney Looks 2 weight classes bigger. He should take all the belts he can before going up to 140. He is too small for welterweight.

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So another example over 5 years ago because it happens so infrequently. PBC is a protection program for all its fighters it seems in that regard. Mayer will be fighting in England in September so all more recent. Anderson was going to fight on Fury Whyte undercard but got injured. Why hasn't PBC had a winning fighter outside the country in over 5 years?

You said I literally couldn't name another one. I did and now you're moving the goalposts?

Errol Spence and Gervonta Davis went overseas. Those are major champions and names in the sport. Don't compare that to a woman boxer and a disgraced drug cheat.

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PBC fighter Tank Davis went over to England and spanked Liam Walsh.

Just face it, not going outside the country is part of the Top Rank Protection Program when it comes to it's American boxers.

So another example over 5 years ago because it happens so infrequently. PBC is a protection program for all its fighters it seems in that regard. Mayer will be fighting in England in September so all more recent. Anderson was going to fight on Fury Whyte undercard but got injured. Why hasn't PBC had a winning fighter outside the country in over 5 years?

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And Errol is the exception rather than the rule too. You literally can't name another one and somehow need to qualify it as only American for some reason. Do you think only Americans get exposure by fighting outside of the country? Or is it because it defeats your argument? How come no PBC fighters have fought outside the country in many years with the exception of maybe Marcus Browne when he got his ass beat by Beterbiev?

PBC fighter Tank Davis went over to England and spanked Liam Walsh.

Just face it, not going outside the country is part of the Top Rank Protection Program when it comes to it's American boxers.

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Haney was basically strong armed away from Eddie Hearn and had to jump through hoops just to get a shot at the titles. He's an exception rather than the rule.

And Errol is the exception rather than the rule too. You literally can't name another one and somehow need to qualify it as only American for some reason. Do you think only Americans get exposure by fighting outside of the country? Or is it because it defeats your argument? How come no PBC fighters have fought outside the country in many years with the exception of maybe Marcus Browne when he got his ass beat by Beterbiev?

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Devin Haney. Why does it have to be an American fighter? And when's the next PBC fighter doing the same?

Haney was basically strong armed away from Eddie Hearn with the only way to get a shot at the titles being to sign with Arum. And he has been made to jump through numerous hoops just to get that title shot. He's an exception rather than the rule.

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I'm talking about Top Rank's American fighters of course. When was the last time Arum sent an American to fight outside the country?

Devin Haney. Why does it have to be an American fighter? And when's the next PBC fighter doing the same?