Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Won't Be Easy To Make Garcia-Tank; Haymon Always Want To Break Up Fights

[hhh1200]

This coming from the guy who tanked Charlo vs Munguia

True but Haymon tanked Santa Cruz Rigodeaux when he had that fight ready to go

[hitmanjosh]

*** Oscar & Garcia, I'm picking Fortuna by upset agaist this B.I.T.C.H.H.H.H.H.!

[Cyborg Fangerloo]

Shut up shut your mouths with all of this trash! 40% of the articles are about promoters and what they said and what they are doing. This is the core of the biggest problem with boxing and why the Kardashians are bigger stars than the HW champ. Everyone is blaming each other. There likely is no truth anymore. It is like I am playing cards with my brother’s kids.

[boxingitis]

PBC sucks, only good meaningful fight theyve had this year was Charlo vs Castano, everything else has been Crap.

[Oldskoolg]

PBC sucks, only good meaningful fight theyve had this year was Charlo vs Castano, everything else has been Crap.

Yeah that Spence v Ugas fight was jive time wasn’t it….

[richardt]

See here is the problem with Oscar - he holds grudges forever! He tried to sue Hayman and lost and he fought Mayweather and lost and he still holds a grudge to this day over both situations. He needs to build business relationships, not block them. And not dissing them in public. Oscar is still like a 14 year old kid who never grew up.

[Kiowhatta]

I'll keep saying it, as I've been saying it, and will continue to say it: Haymon is just plain BAD for boxing. He doesn't look at his contracted fighters as people, he sees them as tradeable commodities.

Some people might say that's good business acumen, but there's a concept I won't mention here where once upon a time people and their perceived labor value were a business.

I don't care how one dresses it up, whether the fighter under the PBC contract says 'I've got a new car, a new T.V, etc' it's still a form of financial enslavement.

Simply because that person (or commodity) has creature comforts still doesn't detract from the fact that Haymon and Mayweather are playing with these young fighters like they were mere collectible cards - to be traded, discarded, or sold.

The bare minimum for a promoter ought to be at least an interest and care for the sport.

Laissez-faire economics in boxing is tugging at the tenuous fabric of what's left in terms of trust, integrity, and faith that many people (foolishly or otherwise) still place in the sport.

Where else would it make sense to pay fighters to avoid taking on legacy-defining fights, simply to protect a meaningless '0' on their record.

The 1 P4P fighter has two losses on his record, a now forgotten positive test for clenbuterol between the two GGG fights, yet he is still the most sought after fighter in the sport because of the potential payday it promises.

I give up.

[BoxingIsGreat]

See here is the problem with Oscar - he holds grudges forever! He tried to sue Hayman and lost and he fought Mayweather and lost and he still holds a grudge to this day over both situations. He needs to build business relationships, not block them. And not dissing them in public. Oscar is still like a 14 year old kid who never grew up.

The utter truth here.

I personally want those relationships build. I always knew Floyd could work with Oscar. He should approach Mayweather Promotions without all the egos and past history. Even if Ryan loses next, it doesn't mean they shouldn't talk. All these idiotic promoters should be working together.

Also, Ryan shouldn't have any delusions about being the clear B-side. He wants the fight, right?

This is not social media.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I'll keep saying it, as I've been saying it, and will continue to say it: Haymon is just plain BAD for boxing. He doesn't look at his contracted fighters as people, he sees them as tradeable commodities.

Some people might say that's good business acumen, but there's a concept I won't mention here where once upon a time people and their perceived labor value were a business.

I don't care how one dresses it up, whether the fighter under the PBC contract says 'I've got a new car, a new T.V, etc' it's still a form of financial enslavement.

Simply because that person (or commodity) has creature comforts still doesn't detract from the fact that Haymon and Mayweather are playing with these young fighters like they were mere collectible cards - to be traded, discarded, or sold.

The bare minimum for a promoter ought to be at least an interest and care for the sport.

Laissez-faire economics in boxing is tugging at the tenuous fabric of what's left in terms of trust, integrity, and faith that many people (foolishly or otherwise) still place in the sport.

Where else would it make sense to pay fighters to avoid taking on legacy-defining fights, simply to protect a meaningless '0' on their record.

The 1 P4P fighter has two losses on his record, a now forgotten positive test for clenbuterol between the two GGG fights, yet he is still the most sought after fighter in the sport because of the potential payday it promises.

I give up.

I used to think like you. I understand your feelings.

I questioned how this Haymon character can keep over 200 fighters happy, most of them inactive. That stayed in my mind for a long time. I'm not a Haymon fan or any promoter or adviser fan. I'm a boxing fan. The odd thing is no boxer has left him. The one that left came back crying after a few months.

One day, it suddenly dawned on me that maybe this guy is teaching them how to invest their money, small or big. That's why many are quiet and comfortable. He saves them some promotional and sanctioning fees too.

So, I have no position on Al Haymon, or care that much.

War Boxing!

[gauze]

Maybe you should delete this post? This is a legit topic.

you smell like salty ding dongs. your post has nothing to do with boxing or this thread. you keep crossing your fingers and hoping for good fights there, tough guy