Floyd Mayweather Jr. lied to EVERYBODY

[Al Haymon]

People are so quick to forget the past.

Well, i've determined that many of the posters on here started watching boxing 2 or 3 years ago, and don't really know the past. Or they post from pure emotion.

What is disappointing is how people make these definitive statements with an absence of knowledge, context or perspective.

[Pullcounter]

Well, i've determined that many of the posters on here started watching boxing 2 or 3 years ago, and don't really know the past. Or they post from pure emotion.

What is disappointing is how people make these definitive statements with an absence of knowledge, context or perspective.

Floyd is a *****. Jmm had the mutha****in contract and it said 144 lbs. Floyd put the clause in there because he never planned to come into the fight at 144 lbs. He pulled the mutha ****in bait-n-switch. He's a shady as mutha****er that no one can trust.

[El Angel]

Exactly that's what bothered me more than anything. He said "I'm on weight if the fight was today." on 24/7 when he knew on Wednesday he was not going to make the weight.

[MindBat]

Well, i've determined that many of the posters on here started watching boxing 2 or 3 years ago, and don't really know the past. Or they post from pure emotion.

What is disappointing is how people make these definitive statements with an absence of knowledge, context or perspective.

This will always be the case.

[civicvx]

LOL nobody saw that one coming...

[Al Haymon]

Floyd is a *****. Jmm had the mutha****in contract and it said 144 lbs. Floyd put the clause in there because he never planned to come into the fight at 144 lbs. He pulled the mutha ****in bait-n-switch. He's a shady as mutha****er that no one can trust.

You mean the same clause that Oscar-Pac had?

Any lawyer will tell you that if you are not prepared to deal with the consequences of a clause in a contract, then don't include it in the contract.

Floyd took an "L" at the bargaining table vs Oscar. And he just outsmarted JMM at the table. Now, Juan just needs to get even in the ring. That's all.

[Al Haymon]

Exactly that's what bothered me more than anything. He said "I'm on weight if the fight was today." on 24/7 when he knew on Wednesday he was not going to make the weight.

But you notice that he never said WHAT weight. He was gaming the system the whole time. They should have known all along that something was up when FMJ refused to say 144.

Didn't you have su****ions as to why FMJ was so cryptic about weight?

Again, bad negotiation by Nacho/GBP.

[Jim Jeffries]

You mean the same clause that Oscar-Pac had?

Any lawyer will tell you that if you are not prepared to deal with the consequences of a clause in a contract, then don't include it in the contract.

Floyd took an "L" at the bargaining table vs Oscar. And he just outsmarted JMM at the table. Now, Juan just needs to get even in the ring. That's all.

Oscar was old and inactive against Floyd, he needed advantages.

Why does Floyd need them against the smaller, older, slower Marquez?

[ILLuminato]

Illuminato,

Please provide us with one - just a single _ link or quote that mayweather said this fight was at 144. And I can provide you tons that, whenever asked, he said "this is a welterweight fight".

Now, you may not like what he did, and that' your prerogative. He gamed the system by exercising a clause in his contract. You know what you call that? PERFECTLY LEGAL.

Did you see Schaefer angry? Did you see Kizer angry? No. The weigh-in went smoothly because Team Mayweather handled the paperwork, and there were no surprises. You seem to forget that Oscar had an identical clause in his Pac contract.

Mayweather did not do what Corrales, Castillo, Guzman, or Campbell did.

You might not like it, but what Floyd did was perfectly within his right....and it was handled professionally.


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Third lawsuit filed over Corrales-Castillo boxing matchesBy Steve Green (contact)

Friday, Aug. 28, 2009 | 1:55 a.m.

Castillo-Corrales
Another lawsuit has been filed claiming millions of dollars are owed to the widow and promoter of lightweight fighter Diego Corrales because of problems with bouts between Corrales and fighter Jose Luis Castillo.

Corrales was killed in a May 2007 motorcycle accident in Las Vegas. On Tuesday, his widow, Michelle Corrales, and promoter Gary Shaw Productions LLC sued Castillo’s promoter, Bob Arum, and Arum’s Las Vegas-based Top Rank Inc.

The suit in Clark County District Court claims Arum and Top Rank owe Shaw and the estate of Corrales millions of dollars over problems with two scheduled fights.

This is at least the third such lawsuit over the fights -- two more are pending and appear headed toward trial in U.S. District Court for Nevada in Las Vegas.

The events at issue in the lawsuit have been previously reported:

-- Corrales knocked out Castillo on May 7, 2005, in a championship fight that has been called the best bout of that year.

-- A rematch was set for Oct. 8, 2005, but Castillo weighed in at over the 135-pound limit. Even though it was not a championship bout because of the weight issue, the two fought anyway and Castillo knocked Corrales out.

-- A second rematch was set for June 2006, but Castillo again failed to make weight and the fight was canceled.

-- Castillo fought Herman Ngoudjo on Jan. 20, 2007.

-- Castillo fought Ricky Hatton on June 23, 2007.

In the lawsuits, Castillo and his handlers are accused of causing Shaw and the estate of Corrales to lose millions of dollars because of alleged problems with the 2005 rematch and the canceled 2006 fight.

In Wednesday’s lawsuit, Michelle Corrales and Shaw note that in one of the other lawsuits, judges ordered $1.6 million of Castillo’s winnings to be garnished from the Ngoudjo and Hatton fights. The garnished funds would cover potential damages to be paid to Corrales and Shaw.

But, the new lawsuit charges, Arum, Top Rank and Castillo’s adviser Fernando Beltran have schemed to prevent garnishment of those funds. Beltran has been described as both Castillo’s manager and promoter, a dual role that attorneys for Corrales and Shaw say is illegal.

“Top Rank, Arum and Beltran devised a scheme to divert money due Castillo for the Ngoudjo and Hatton bouts to Beltran so as to assist Castillo in avoiding debt to Corrales,” charged the lawsuit, filed by Las Vegas attorney William Lewis Wolfbrandt Jr.

A message for comment on the allegations was left Wednesday with Top Rank.

Michelle Corrales and Shaw also claim in the suit that Top Rank and Arum were aware Castillo was not training properly for the scheduled rematches -- allegedly contributing to the financial losses of Corrales and Shaw.

“Top Rank and Arum owed a duty to Shaw and Corrales to inform them that Castillo would not ‘make weight,’” the lawsuit charges regarding the first rematch.

It notes that in a now-infamous incident, someone in Castillo’s camp attempted to place his foot under the scale at the weigh-in for the first rematch, but this attempt to make it appear Castillo weighed only 135 pounds was detected by Marc Ratner, then executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission, who was supervising the weigh-in.

“Top Rank and Arum were aware of and condoned the effort to manipulate the scale,” the lawsuit charges.

Castillo knocked out Corrales in the first rematch and “Castillo’s weight advantage played a major role in the victory,” the lawsuit alleges.

It claims Shaw was damaged because the pay-per-view take for the fight was reduced by its non-championship status and confusion among the public as to when the fight would take place because of an alleged statement by Arum after the weigh-in incident that “the fight is off.”

As for the canceled second rematch, the lawsuit claims Top Rank and Arum again were aware Castillo was not training properly and would not make weight but “took affirmative steps to mislead the public, Shaw and Corrales” of the situation.

The new lawsuit asserts breach of contract claims against Arum and Top Rank over the two rematches and the wage garnishment issue.

“Top Rank breached its contractual obligations through outrageous fraudulent conduct that was part of a pattern of misconduct concerning Castillo’s weight and directed toward the public generally,” the suit charges.

The cases pending in federal court are against Castillo and Beltran. Attorneys for both have denied allegations in the suits of wrongdoing concer

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GETTING PENALIZED $600,000 FOR SOMETHING YOU FAIL TO DO WHICH YOU AGREED UPON IS NOT PROFESSIONAL!!!! Obviously Mayweather was doing something wrong to get penalized.

LAS VEGAS -- Floyd Mayweather Jr. weighed in at 146 pounds on Friday afternoon, two pounds heavier than the weight stipulated in the contract for his comeback fight against lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez on Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

The excess weight will cost Mayweather $300,000 per pound, meaning Marquez will get an additional $600,000 on top of his $3.2 million guarantee, a source told ESPN.com. Mayweather's minimum guarantee is $10 million, a figure likely to dramatically increase after the pay-per-view receipts are counted.

Marquez, who has never fought heavier than 135 pounds, comfortably made 142 pounds, two less than the 144-pound contract weight.

At Mayweather's request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.

However, several sources with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com all along that the contract maximum weight was 144 pounds, three less than the 147-pound welterweight maximum.

But after Friday's weigh-in, Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer finally addressed the issue, telling ESPN.com, "The fight was contracted as a welterweight fight with an agreed upon weight of 144 pounds. However, there were pre-negotiated weight penalties built in."

Schaefer would not disclose the dollar figure, but another source with direct knowledge of the contract told ESPN.com that the penalty was $300,000 per pound if either fighter was overweight.

Thank you.

[arraamis]

Well, i've determined that many of the posters on here started watching boxing 2 or 3 years ago, and don't really know the past. Or they post from pure emotion.

What is disappointing is how people make these definitive statements with an absence of knowledge, context or perspective.

Co-Sign!!!!

Some of these guys posts\threads resemble something you would see in Jr.High school -

No Substance, No Facts, with No Research involved - Just pure speculation coupled with ignorant, meaningless rants.

Unfreakin-Believable!!!!