Will Robert Garcia make a difference in Usyk-Joshua 2?

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  • Quiksilva
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    #1

    Will Robert Garcia make a difference in Usyk-Joshua 2?

    Will Robert Garcia make changes to AJ's rematch and reclaim the titles the Brit once held?

    What y'all think?
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  • Cypocryphy
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    He can't. It's beyond Roberts ability to make any meaning difference in such a short period of time. Almost invariably, you will usually see a three-part phase in a boxer's development with a new trainer. Initially, what tends to happen is that during the first fight with the new trainer, the boxer will actually look worse than he had before because he's fighting against muscle memory, over thinking what he's supposed to be doing and things like that. And if that's not the case, then within a few rounds, muscle memory and doing what's comfortable kicks in. Then in the second fight, he starts to look a little better but tends to seem a little off form. It's not until the third fight that you get to see the fruits of the new union. So in order to get from point A to point B, it takes a trainer about a year to a year and a half to change the boxer and have him do what you want him to do.

    You won't find anyone legitimately tell you that they can change a boxer in several months. They can come up with a different plan that's tailor made for how the boxer already fights. But the coaching aspect of it? Forget about it.

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    • elfag
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      AJ couldnt decide on a trainer for like 8 months. Someone that indecisive and looking to blame their trainer for last fight still isnt there mentally.

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      • hhh1200
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        #4
        Remember there is nothing AJ can do b/c he is facing the great Eastern European even though there are clear points in the first fight when he forced Usyk to on the back foot into a negative fight which he has to do for 7 rounds to win the 2nd fight but then again he is fighting the great Eastern European.

        I'd say you have him push forward similar to Beterbiev with a similar high guard, training him to catch while keeping his head off the center line and return to the body, especially for the first 4-5 rounds. Usyk's midsection should be bloodshot red by the 5th. Different fight if Usyk legs aren't working right after the 5th or 6th.

        Garcia can train him to come forward but I don't think he can get him to fight technically similar to Beterbiev and bank in 7 rounds for an SD.

        I would have gone with Banks or Beterbiev's team.

        Last edited by hhh1200; 06-21-2022, 11:24 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy
          He can't. It's beyond Roberts ability to make any meaning difference in such a short period of time. Almost invariably, you will usually see a three-part phase in a boxer's development with a new trainer. Initially, what tends to happen is that during the first fight with the new trainer, the boxer will actually look worse than he had before because he's fighting against muscle memory, over thinking what he's supposed to be doing and things like that. And if that's not the case, then within a few rounds, muscle memory and doing what's comfortable kicks in. Then in the second fight, he starts to look a little better but tends to seem a little off form. It's not until the third fight that you get to see the fruits of the new union. So in order to get from point A to point B, it takes a trainer about a year to a year and a half to change the boxer and have him do what you want him to do.

          You won't find anyone legitimately tell you that they can change a boxer in several months. They can come up with a different plan that's tailor made for how the boxer already fights. But the coaching aspect of it? Forget about it.
          Weird how you say that.

          Look at Joe Parker for example, he went from Kevin Barry to Andy Lee in a short amount of time and we saw noticeable changes in the Parker-Chisora II fight.

          But it took a few months and they had more time compared to Joshua & R. Garcia.

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