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Originally posted by DLT
i guess tyson´s prime was when he ko trevor berbick, for many reason his fast headmovement, he was hungry and powerful
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ok, when was tyson,holyfield and bowe´s prime?
i guess tyson´s prime was when he ko trevor berbick, for many reason his fast headmovement, he was hungry and powerful -
nah lennox lewis would beat ALi.Comment
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I think Lewis is the one of best heavyweights these days.
But he unfortunately didn't fight real rivals.
like All's,Foreman,Norton,Fraizer and so on.
And Lewis knocked down twice,All was not.So it's hard to say Lewis is greatest.Comment
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Ali was smarter in the ring than just about anybody, but ring smarts is only about half the battle. His laziness that started fairly early in his career (early 30's) would've most likely given the win to Lewis, or even Klitchko, both of whom have a fair amount of ring smarts themselves, and both are very accurate punchers. I liked Ali, for his phenomenal natural ability and talent, and his aforementioned smarts in the ring, but I hated his mouth, and his lack of conditioning.....failure to step into the ring in other than peak shape is a slap in the face to the fans who pay to see you fight...NO exceptions.Originally posted by BadMagickComment
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Your giving LL to much cred, he was koed by rahman and mccall and outboxed by vk and than retired instead of rematching him like he should and he would have had he not been such a coward.
Ali had way better competition and he also had a way better chin.Comment
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as the number 1 lennox lewis hater i will grant u guys this, if lennox lewis had heart he woulda went undefeated, when he was young he got cought by a pucnh for the first time and couldnt recover, and agasint rahman he was being an ass and got KO'd, lewis could always protect his chin well and if he had trained and been focus better he coulda been so much more
now about how lewis fairs against other greats
dont get me wrong here guys but klitschko and lewis would destroy any great heavyweight pre liston era, there r just to tall and to heavy and can easly fend these smaller guys off im srry but its hard to see a 5'11 188 pounbd rocky beating up a 6'5 6'7 250+ guy, and boxing now is more "skilled" per say as in defence and how u work, back then it was sloppy. they only real heavyweight i can see even beating prime on prime vs klitscko and lewis r Ali/foreman/fraizer/ everyone else i can not see getting through and beating lewis and klitschko there jabs r just to good for those smaller guys to handle, no matter how much heart and determination they had that doesnt always win fights
(just my opnion)Comment
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i partially agree, they are to big for most of the good old timers to handle.
However could frazier do it than rocky can too.
LL and Vk would never be able to keep his pace for the entire fight.Comment
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Originally posted by leff
they wont need to when the ref stops the fight after they go down a few times. and liek in the danny willimas fight klitschko will beat u up for 12 rounds cause u cant even land 100 punchesComment
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I think so too. He would be way too big for Ali. Henry Cooper supposedly gave Ali some trouble, And I see Lewis as hitting harder, and having better intelligence in the ring. I think Lewis would win a lopsided decision over Prime ali, or even knock him out.Originally posted by VkreW
Ali never faced an opponent as dangerous as Lennox. Foreman was a walk in the park in comparison, a large slow plodder.
Lewis was big, fast, and skilled. Something we will never see again as heavyweight boxing fans. I gauruntee.
The general conscensus would be; that Ali would use the "rope a dope". That is ridiculous, because Lewis would tap Ali's gloves with a jab....untill he showed his face...then nail him with an overhead right sending Ali into the press row.
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run lennox is good but to dominate a prime Ali no ****ing wayComment
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